From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 20 04:10:38 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5KEW-0005HG-8H for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:10:38 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5KEK-0005Gq-QI for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:10:33 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so1513138nfv.46 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:10:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=AaYcZvuQtnvrVoCGDtFqiXn+0IWpVCgHXGKcWbFgIq4=; b=EqdTApKmS4O6PyGHEVJpjIO3bePIEwhx5UAstbM6RDTh9fibpOTKel6WrdfOKrEk1Vd4OEKdPeaVbSdHpPu7mq4oH11a8Px+YIOXBGCLjl8kKO66R4moJ54q9uclD0I5dGHFwYKwRhCBLFoXn+v0NYyfCcVkwR2AeZQREy0mjvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=cMHDwpq3j874Q9ziOm6ZRlNOiKAyr4OwPhnKLhgIO0fxix1W9VtbLDTRdOxmA4xQE+pASHB4/a2l0CpFzMR5YWKULxIdWlvl1MjjlSh1fPf2k5lxnisKDxuI5VPCrbcLoUqtCDO4aW6BWS4dJQ1nDKMooLHc+rUC/3FDo8G0cGk= Received: by 10.78.131.8 with SMTP id e8mr6513285hud.52.1198152619530; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?194.29.34.149? ( [194.29.34.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm7816621huc.2007.12.20.04.10.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:10:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1C6FD709-7025-4A3D-8CDE-DB07CE12F5F7@gmail.com> From: Yoav Nir To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "C++" Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:10:05 +0200 References: <2f91285f0712191452w44253109v5bdac71ce5992ce9@mail.gmail.com> <20071219231516.GO13175@digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5871 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Definitely pronounced as {siplusplus} or {siplasplas} in Hebrew. On Dec 20, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Alex Martini wrote: > On Dec 19, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 11:52:22PM +0100, Vid Sintef wrote: >>> How do you express the name "C++"? {la cy.sumjibu.sumjibu} or {la >>> cy.sujybu.sujybu}? >> >> la .siplusplus. >> >> It's a name; it has little real semantic meaning. > > .ie C++ is an inherently English programming language in my > experience. And very few users of C++ know where the name > semantically derived from anyhow. > > If you really wanted a Lojbanic name, you could try to translate "C > with classes", which was the C++'s first (working) name. But they > you'd need a Lojban word for "class" as it's used in C++... .uonai > > Any idea what other languages use to name C++? I'd bet just their > name for "C", and their name for "plus plus", but I've never heard > anyone talk about it not using English. > > mu'o mi'e .aleks. > > >