From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 20 07:27:19 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5NIo-00048r-MQ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:27:19 -0800 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5NIY-00047w-3n for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:27:11 -0800 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so6240271mue.2 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:26:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=exFw9HcWgg0kQdnLNiWKu7YWBu2dUk8dlXwQNC8CLFE=; b=xZvvCKPDxbwsThcOEYT422AwPVcV1J4oISjL7Ip87XI7tMFpr3WLxzEw2HUHbZlVQHiZ/1d6SGSeDFQ5FOjS384i1XgAyvAQm68ElP/w9Qr8lFksjsLMoxRdsOH29en8r410YmIJdfYUEbipXDyw6LEKXJPPiflQ9B1cJYX1Jd0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=wnWx8qJa9eRxhKyj3Tg/l/Kbap4xrOTYQqAroIvKrMciifeNjv4WYSmrLrUlmK9baLXSAjOEy7SMgZqy209gqbX7mxtL7EURYsvqoTdZMT+bdYtshEz2cZOdmqIeb3fzFj/5HVraMuzaKooliLV4WHukh6sLg9i7mlnXB8LiraQ= Received: by 10.86.71.1 with SMTP id t1mr82658fga.69.1198164412052; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:26:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712200726y6975b8dap809f3e5fa7b16f55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:26:52 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "live performance" In-Reply-To: <12d58c160712192028t6372a4b6md46958ebefbae721@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712191444w26596f42q9d4dcec3257fc390@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160712192028t6372a4b6md46958ebefbae721@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5872 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 20, 2007 1:28 AM, komfo,amonan wrote: > > I think "live" is built into {tigni}. I'm not sure. The definition says "for/before audience x3". If it were just "before", it would have to be live, but "for" seems to admit pre-recorded performances too. > Thus: > > mi pu te tigni fi la cakla respa .i je ba za bo mi ve skina le se go'i > I saw Chocolate Reptile live, then later saw the film of the performance. I think that would work with that context. Perhaps {narpruvei}, "not pre-recorded" can be used if there is a need to be more explicit. mu'o mi'e xorxes