From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 20 11:39:32 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5REd-0005s8-2k for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:39:24 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5RE2-0005qD-Dv for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:39:04 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so434rvf.46 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:38:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dE5gdrxdecB6NotRytDrslt7tRnt5hmy4bOr7ayJBh4=; b=W/J4qzd8qVaEFXKjSzPzGh08r3usWCZM7okF3Ba4brlPFY/cigXQ1v9n5j5tN9qu5AJxfIdIIFDZnkQbGmzTLMXmtdGfd0ZWLbZ+VFlCmTLrVuOplQoA77gcF8eL9cL9dTnL9OJcou5DqnfXMi92YmNuG4eEJLQP9cN4177wlBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Itfg6dxMXQAbeXSLD3g41EDqetH7d60RNLpKXpiUi4J4Rk5mVk9ToRelRQH4hForZFbkoHY1e5aa5P33uMYm+8JOT0q05bDOYjkxEP0pYImmI8GtAOxsUzfeGDtbOhIigmAr1S49ZwN+zcvlwwQ7yLCMCL1OW8NJNCmkpLtdhdk= Received: by 10.140.251.1 with SMTP id y1mr221701rvh.107.1198177945361; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:12:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712201112r5ee1cb2agac300d572e90c4e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:12:25 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojban-beginners Digest V6 #219 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14239_30284984.1198177945374" References: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5875 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_14239_30284984.1198177945374 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline {nai} does not come after brivla. To negate a brivla you either use {na'e}: {na'e vreji}, or create a lujvo: {nalvreji / nalvei}. Secondly, cmavo should not be run together with preceding brivla. {vrejinai} is considered a fu'ivla (loan word) with undefined meaning. In speech this is distinguished by stress ({VREji nai} vs. {vreJInai}). Hope this helps. mu'o mi'e .djanytyn. > ------=_Part_14239_30284984.1198177945374 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline {nai} does not come after brivla. To negate a brivla you either use {na'e}: {na'e vreji}, or create a lujvo: {nalvreji / nalvei}.

Secondly, cmavo should not be run together with preceding brivla. {vrejinai} is considered a fu'ivla (loan word) with undefined meaning. In speech this is distinguished by stress ({VREji nai} vs. {vreJInai}).

Hope this helps.
mu'o mi'e .djanytyn.

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