From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 28 14:04:57 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8NK4-0005o2-V1 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:04:57 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8NJy-0005nf-RS for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:04:56 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so2640121rvf.46 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:04:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=X29jQnQl9qUkrsTrjLYetgP/B3Zl2zC8+7P18gi7chY=; b=j02XT1H2qc/f9tTPUsftuV1ECfDhPygH1sHU/h6yYN8imoYdSfbjEYiKPOKydpEnw5SEwA+VVTxbmY/s0GnfU0RRPdISQTG1zZAfUzzicyP2KatQ2CG1a/SiqIyn3o3y1/KuXbDkJkDxc2d6leOzqAUWUGBoCaQYQHoS+dVvmXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kAfVTFEURoVVAxRNWwkB04cwkfqA/hFt+HIJNfMpiNd71mqIYTweZprWygW4SJU8IN6fTHR4bJVHA7sUoP7ZGl353h+FcF1B16i2PYqlkbiViz4WX3prfJDmUJUjY9oqceYSJqrpmGpqLMxjvtfizGjrdQlWNGxPklOW4Hcv8gQ= Received: by 10.140.251.1 with SMTP id y1mr5083613rvh.11.1198879481935; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:04:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712281404q4eca0994h893183c9b2c3e214@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 06:04:41 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Politics In-Reply-To: <967877.44763.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15529_19076856.1198879481934" References: <967877.44763.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 76 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_15529_19076856.1198879481934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > 3. political affairs: The advocated reforms have become embroiled in > politics. > > You suggest {jecyra'a} for this one - but I'm not sure why. {ra'a} is the > rafsi for {srana} which means 'pertains/concerns'??? I don't know. I just thought "affairs" meant "matters of concern". My vocabulary isn't too good. I just thought the example sentence would sound good as "*le se stidi gafsi'o cu se lujgau loi jecra'a*"? 8. play politics. > a. to engage in political intrigue, take advantage of a political > situation or issue, resort to partisan politics, etc.; exploit a political > system or political relationships. > b. to deal with people in an opportunistic, manipulative, or devious way, > as for job advancement. > > These two are the ones that I was particularly interested in. Any > suggestions? Hmm... I'm not quite sure. *ticyjikca* (deceptively socialize)? I'm not sure that's quite right. *ju'ocu'isai* ------=_Part_15529_19076856.1198879481934 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
3. political affairs: The advocated reforms have become embroiled in politics.

You suggest {jecyra'a} for this one - but I'm not sure why. {ra'a} is the rafsi for {srana} which means 'pertains/concerns'???

 I don't know. I just thought "affairs" meant "matters of concern". My vocabulary isn't too good. I just thought the example sentence would sound good as " le se stidi gafsi'o cu se lujgau loi jecra'a"?

8. play politics.
a. to engage in political intrigue, take advantage of a political situation or issue, resort to partisan politics, etc.; exploit a political system or political relationships.
b. to deal with people in an opportunistic, manipulative, or devious way, as for job advancement.

These two are the ones that I was particularly interested in. Any suggestions?

Hmm... I'm not quite sure. ticyjikca (deceptively socialize)? I'm not sure that's quite right. ju'ocu'isai


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