From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Dec 29 15:36:38 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8lEK-0004S0-NU for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:36:37 -0800 Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8lEF-0004RI-OD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:36:36 -0800 Received: (qmail 23868 invoked by uid 48); 29 Dec 2007 15:36:16 -0800 Received: from c-24-63-92-33.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (c-24-63-92-33.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.92.33]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:36:16 -0800 Message-ID: <20071229153616.fk148th9w888wg4w@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:36:16 -0800 From: mungojelly@ixkey.info To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Politics References: <967877.44763.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <967877.44763.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 80 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Quoting "A. PIEKARSKI" : > 8. play politics. > a. to engage in political intrigue, take advantage of a political > situation or issue, resort to partisan politics, etc.; exploit a > political system or political relationships. > b. to deal with people in an opportunistic, manipulative, or devious > way, as for job advancement. > > These two are the ones that I was particularly interested in. Any > suggestions? My suggestion is zo vlipyxlura (vlixlu), and this is what I would suggest for a seljvo: x1=v1 influences the power dynamics of situation x2=v3 towards end x3=v2 through means of influence x4 The English "play politics" seems to have a rather negative connotation, so it might translate better as malvlixlu. :) mu'o mi'e doi bret.