From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Dec 29 19:02:13 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8oRJ-00032C-E9 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:02:13 -0800 Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8oRF-00031t-Aa for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:02:13 -0800 Received: (qmail 27256 invoked by uid 48); 29 Dec 2007 19:01:58 -0800 Received: from c-24-63-92-33.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (c-24-63-92-33.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.92.33]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:01:58 -0800 Message-ID: <20071229190158.cpp90ec8owk4kccg@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:01:58 -0800 From: mungojelly@ixkey.info To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Politics References: <967877.44763.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20071229153616.fk148th9w888wg4w@webmail.ixkey.info> <97f5058c0712291606v67c6a1a0n577b5b8fda57025b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0712291606v67c6a1a0n577b5b8fda57025b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 83 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Quoting Penguino : > Hmm... but *vlixlu* seems to suggest to mean "using power to influence", or > is it just me? I'd suggest *tervlixlu*, to make it clear that it is the > power dynamics that are being influenced. .ueru'e .ua .iesai mi tugni The first place of vlixlu would be someone powerful, that makes sense. So someone who isn't powerful as such but is influencing the circumstances of power would be more like lo tervlixlu. Pretty word either way, isn't it? I like the way those Ls roll off the tongue. mu'o mi'e doi bret.