From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Dec 29 20:31:47 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8ppz-0005PX-I3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:31:47 -0800 Received: from web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.218]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J8ppo-0005PG-K6 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:31:45 -0800 Received: (qmail 3323 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Dec 2007 04:31:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=g/hXS7btrXNMcCfpm3Bv7r77H6x7mR1dKYuw7hO7RnMf1AfZyXnFsEVpnyr5jZC0psXODSIrWXF+av0QLLiktEMNMy7LZuNP0S8J8Dbcwf0TVuTZYaWX9G71geR51qfdr7UqcFAY61K1DFllD3aGvMC8CzluDZ91RHy5S26nn/g=; X-YMail-OSG: GATwMo0VM1lEM0yeIl3vr61snbXHpgaoxsKhZmPFz1qhRa8iHV38P027Y6FVdq9EgA-- Received: from [99.229.12.248] by web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:31:29 PST Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:31:29 -0800 (PST) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Politics To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <87165.89691.qm@web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 85 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ----- Original Message ---- > From: "mungojelly@ixkey.info" > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:36:16 PM > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Politics > > Quoting "A. PIEKARSKI" : > > > 8. play politics. > > a. to engage in political intrigue, take advantage of a political > > situation or issue, resort to partisan politics, etc.; exploit a > > political system or political relationships. > > b. to deal with people in an opportunistic, manipulative, or devious > > way, as for job advancement. > > > My suggestion is zo vlipyxlura (vlixlu), and this is what I would > suggest for a seljvo: > > x1=v1 influences the power dynamics of situation x2=v3 towards end > x3=v2 through means of influence x4 > So would 'politics' in this case be {lo zu'o ce'u vlixlu}? mu'o mi'e andrus