From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Dec 30 14:07:55 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J96K2-0001r9-3a for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:54 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J96Jv-0001qx-VI for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:53 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so2208273fga.0 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LnIF1pxGS3C/XhRlOv1tz5CUeQcyhCMZp9Fr/TBTTrs=; b=Z41DcRKsQwWKUkY+Bqe3KCjO05idm6/0G68SF3Q43wKCzbibp5caQsduJpFuBdIKaKxeQMtL8dbcAUn3t8Ua0hFs7XjZv1wdrG3NkPpP8auyOHlM+7xYkwbg3tNcnuh7vc1Z22fw8AyrmGNiioDz91lHpe8DImy4XjCXBPRc88c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=v7szny/jzJQOSMLgC1jbk9UJmilEtv1epTD2szj3n1DCz16HUScRYhJdUgI58+OvAOmBL1Pl2BzpnLudBO2eW2lc/lBEQCuHCi04yBYByONGg70pFLWrN2WmDYLnt55WkYo+Gcaw2guk2BmOKFnMhNXNyWw3nhjsyw3qUPYQjSQ= Received: by 10.86.72.15 with SMTP id u15mr11575052fga.11.1199052466127; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.27.19 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:07:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712301407j353e0f17j264267c967937b91@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:07:46 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: confusing gismus In-Reply-To: <20071230110938.lvwyvup5kwsc04g4@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712300908l379651c5o91cde87e8b81960e@mail.gmail.com> <20071230110938.lvwyvup5kwsc04g4@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 90 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 30, 2007 4:09 PM, wrote: > Quoting Vid Sintef : > > > skapi (x1 is a pelt/skin/hide/leather from x2) > > pilka (x1 is a crust/rind/peel/skin/hide/outer cover of x2) > > Here "skapi" is a subset of "pilka", I would say. There's just a > special word for the "pilka" of an animal. One distinction is that skapi is a kind of material ("from x2") while pilka is a body-part ("of x2"). So pilka only becomes skapi once it has been removed from the animal it belonged to. Somewhat analogous to the distinction between "meat" and "flesh" in English. mu'o mi'e xorxes