From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 31 12:41:33 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J9RS0-0005WM-TU for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:33 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J9RRq-0005VS-0M for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:32 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so2417155fga.0 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GlI+ZX9KCIdt+OCRqAO36M56d3L2LpRccXtDRdYWQS8=; b=DFZh4Hjd4qpNJaKrJvsnjKOkomRwyOZSWiOg0Dj2iqFiQ+5aupLWywY7DB3P5fVNqqDyM4Ie/k//dORCjWiLOHfXUO4u5zVWxvcTNhtGjHqg2t2vjcILjQmm/7i1lZDJxk7rRsUPawjaJFo69MxL0x/HbnzBY6VxzXlPMHONC9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ALjWWNAw1flcyjm/ub9u0EhdXqLjvl38Kp+Qgb63OS0GC5ArxLuc6cACbEBJw/a+HpldQCpTke16AmATcaGV0/NXnZtB61K1iFOxKbtmRrxhtHkgaJlpdLI2CE+XF5XKd8ceBTI8P6YVATaCYymRgU6S6k0WJo0VY8CaOyjeFEk= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr12597978fgb.49.1199133679952; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.27.19 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:41:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712311241h2976efbcx3cc2d633900a3a2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:41:19 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: confusing gismus In-Reply-To: <47793898.6090100@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712300908l379651c5o91cde87e8b81960e@mail.gmail.com> <20071230110938.lvwyvup5kwsc04g4@webmail.ixkey.info> <925d17560712301407j353e0f17j264267c967937b91@mail.gmail.com> <20071230144732.4i70hzzqosk4ogcs@webmail.ixkey.info> <925d17560712310340j7a5cdf55l639a87dc1afd6c59@mail.gmail.com> <47793898.6090100@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 99 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 31, 2007 3:44 PM, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > Jorge Llambías wrote: > > > > At least that's the theory. In practice I think most people just use {skapi} > > even though {pilka} is wanted because {skapi} has keyword "skin" and > > {pilka} has keyword "crust". > > More importantly, pilka might be used for a bread crust, but I don't > think it is skapi except in a metaphorical sense. I'm not certain about > an orange peel or an eggshell - both are clearly pilka. That's the distinction bret mentioned, but is skapi just the pilka of an animal, or does it have to be the *extracted* (and processed?) pilka from an animal? mu'o mi'e xorxes