From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jan 05 06:36:05 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBA85-0003aP-Dr for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:36:05 -0800 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBA7w-0003a2-LT for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:36:05 -0800 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7294794786 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:35:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m05EZjcH013192 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:35:45 +0100 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id m05EZjmI013191 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:35:45 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:35:44 +0100 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: on lojbanizing the place structure Message-ID: <20080105143544.GJ31951@nvg.org> References: <2f91285f0801050608s26fece77ua75310c9172f7630@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0801050608s26fece77ua75310c9172f7630@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 157 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 03:08:33PM +0100, Vid Sintef wrote: > What would a Lojbanic description of place structure be like on the > gimste? I have (naively) come up with this one: > > klama > fa-gau fe-mo'ifa'a fi-mo'ito'o fo-mo'ire'o fu-ta'i > > I suppose "fa lo jaigau", "fe lo jaimo'ifa'a" etc. would be > grammatically more appropriate, but also wordy, so I (ungrammatically) > simplified them. > > Suggestion please. The current Lojban definition of klama in Jbovlaste is as follows: x1 muvdu x2 boi x3 boi x4 fi'o se marce x5 (In the HTML and Latex versions, the numbers are written as subscripts. This is a not-quite-canonical shorthand for xy xi pa, xy xi re, etc.) -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis habes.