From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jan 05 20:37:53 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBNGi-00008t-T8 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:37:53 -0800 Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.240.59]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBNGZ-00008X-LV for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:37:51 -0800 Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080106043736.TTTQ8815.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:37:36 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Zgd01Y0013y5FKc0000000; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: <47805B0F.8060809@lojban.org> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:37:35 -0500 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries References: <2027931199527204@webmail39.yandex.ru> <477FACE6.4050704@lojban.org> <200801051624.52813.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <200801051624.52813.phma@phma.optus.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 170 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 05 January 2008 11:14, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > >>Because Moscow was named by the Russians, the best Lojbanization would >>be based on the Russian pronunciation of the name - thus probably "la >>mozgvas" or "la moskfas" would be desireable, but lose visual >>recognition. "la moskuas" seems like a reasonable compromise. The name >>of the country clearly should be "la rosi,as" (which is pronounced as >>you have written rosIas). > > According to the syllabication rules which Jorge and I have been discussing, > which we don't agree on but which we agree on about this word, {mozgvas} and > {moskfas} are invalid, because a syllable can neither end with "zg" or "sk" > nor begin with "gv" or "kf". There is no official restriction that I know of, and changes in the morphology are not part of the byfy charter at this point. lojbab