From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 10 16:37:28 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JD7to-0004Un-DH for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:37:28 -0800 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.177]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JD7tj-0004Uc-MZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:37:28 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b50so1031780pyh.30 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:37:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XNLM2YR3a1tg+mYQzQN+QyJczsvk3CsSJWWGPcbih+Y=; b=lTYy9kU+ExTuBFJxVri9nNShLN6KD8gBgxVvEKwqKOERVtW0Is1z+zXvKXFRSKFWYjUEgwG0eZYvFiSyRpCi3u/t6aM6gcxrAm3Y9hKNi0MH4wK4zZsDKVTzWH/xObNwRPN3yXZrLS8yDoyun0J816W3P06/zZTSNRwYsjIp1gQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JpIQz9tkfPyi6YD7ip08HUgpS2szo0lcn6miej6+dx8p2atoVU9unZRn1Eh5DWKrcUB0+eSSIU4s+yrkDBJz30isX3l19qB0V38F56YZJDggl0HyWeOFDzNthlXLoNOuBUs+gdi/mpVZb/g9f9RNI+p7V2gvHMDZWOnPGlCGIqU= Received: by 10.140.134.15 with SMTP id h15mr1644853rvd.48.1200011841671; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.140.20 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:37:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <702226df0801101637x58f769d9h76185ab9d163b821@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:37:21 -0600 From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0801082154y2258c1deyec0f326dd3f02b64@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15710_9384871.1200011841660" References: <343420.76244.qm@web88014.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <775125.33467.qm@web56402.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <97f5058c0801082154y2258c1deyec0f326dd3f02b64@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 198 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_15710_9384871.1200011841660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Jan 8, 2008 11:54 PM, Penguino wrote: > Another thing I find to be problematic is the [la, lai, la'i, doi] > restriction. > There is a proposal, known as the Dot-Side, that addresses this restriction. The proposal is to require a [.] at the beginning of all cmene, which would allow the [la lai, la'i, doi]. Examples: Atlanta la atlyntas. (Current) la .atlantas. (Dot-Side) Germany la .daitclant. (Current) la .doitclant. (Dot-Side) Personally, since there must be a preceding pause before cmene UNLESS it is preceded by [la, lai, la'i, doi], taking out the exception (i.e. UNLESS....) is a minor quibble, especially in view of the benefit gained by no longer disallowing the four mentioned within cmene. -- mu'o mi'e .topy'at. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu ------=_Part_15710_9384871.1200011841660 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Jan 8, 2008 11:54 PM, Penguino <spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:
Another thing I find to be problematic is the [la, lai, la'i, doi] restriction.

There is a proposal, known as the Dot-Side, that addresses this restriction. The proposal is to require a [.] at the beginning of all
cmene, which would allow the [la lai, la'i, doi].

Examples:
Atlanta
la atlyntas. (Current)
la .atlantas. (Dot-Side)

Germany
la .daitclant. (Current)
la .doitclant. (Dot-Side)

Personally, since there must be a preceding pause before cmene UNLESS it is preceded by [la, lai, la'i, doi], taking out the exception ( i.e. UNLESS....) is a minor quibble, especially in view of the benefit gained by no longer disallowing the four mentioned within cmene.
--
mu'o mi'e .topy'at.

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