From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jan 14 13:25:58 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JEWog-0007MX-3g for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:58 -0800 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.236]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JEWoc-0007MK-56 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:57 -0800 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1029284nze.1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=HcPBbRenNwPSZxGil4GnHN8K97PO7z1o2S5xJL+asrc=; b=AaKkE96Pky4Ucenb0YrzPT4STIMPOYEVU/RM5526yzj2CDKrNxsAw0mGzZ7COP/8c9xvhUQZ67KgX98fi5KQRIOYhcmoepTp+KByEhqyMtHCOqT47eGDq0dicOt5/NuEGSaAgGZ65hP75swoW1yWjVLRkH2Ex4pC6eTorQOcg6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ExwGr9l9x0SznDGRZ3GRudaLwUt+0f/yiT9R4IPoC8Dic04+BjDw57+6uFml9pZvX/adK9wfGvjBctYfPuapl0ogg1NPUBGHnVjZnf2i6cwQm+CZ+j4Xh6UYXH68u3v/cdHFOWkvd5Ope9e3JdJti5BrProMrEAa8MRqVuMlWsA= Received: by 10.142.14.20 with SMTP id 20mr2824192wfn.2.1200345949270; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.216.16 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30801141325s525b42d3g232788f1be1ccb4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:25:49 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] letter names over phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 227 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners In English, it's easy to confuse certain pairs of letters when spelling out words over the phone, notably s and f. (They sound almost identical.) Lojban would be susceptible to the same thing for {sy} and {fy}. Is there some standard way to differentiate when spelling out words? I know the numbers were designed to not be susceptible to this sort of thing; it's odd provisions weren't made for the letters as well. In Spanish the letters b and v are *pronounced* identically, so even in person they must be differentiated if context doesn't make them unambiguous (often by saying "be grande" and "ve chica"). And off topic, does anyone know how you pronounced accented letters when spelling out spanish words? Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet)