From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 16 04:05:37 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JF71V-000052-6Y for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:05:37 -0800 Received: from michael.checkpoint.com ([194.29.32.68]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JF71R-0008WM-0K for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:05:37 -0800 Received: from MBP.checkpoint.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m0GC5PP8016306 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:05:25 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <437C9DCF-6631-47D8-AB42-F6895B3390B9@gmail.com> From: Yoav Nir To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0801160353m205ab989u5dfbc58f51a4e39b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: cmevla-final apostrophe Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:05:15 +0200 References: <2f91285f0801160353m205ab989u5dfbc58f51a4e39b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 251 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I have no problem with that, but it's not a regular consonant. I'm all for allowing anything that would better align lojban names with a person's real name (in their native language). But how does the apostrophe help? How would you pronounce it? As Elmo said, why not allow also the comma? I think that's very useful, as then we can have {la meri,} which is closer to "Mary" then {la meiris} On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Vid Sintef wrote: > What is the problem of using the apostrophe, which is effectively a > consonant, instead of the other consonant letters, at the end of a > cmevla? > > mu'o mi'e vid > > >