From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jan 29 04:48:40 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JJptH-0004LN-Sl for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:48:40 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JJptC-0004L5-P7 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:48:39 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so2047470fga.0 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:48:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xRPzX/Hwts0laaz80l5ilUdJ0P2hV8bnblntbdXfqoU=; b=bXuJPafzn7BQDmaMNRZIi8+oeQRyyM4HwtEWNhFEtcRB0DtjUwMYrEp1KVss1eV9Fgh4ML+iNB80SY8Zi6IU37UVhJJ2B8mVr16M6KoJfXqxl/xbm4cI+tK/i+3yUi0EEK1HR4W0bXdJnbBDyoVgkBnVExcq+fklCIMkkBL7Urs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZobKbP+FHmZC4F2UkTLkAUbz6ZAew6pandmPhPpAo6R2Y6TPjTTBSMhxEIt24e6JMYu3llqzZxR0iBk1XAC5Bn++GjJs4QbTk7trJXUxWWZtRtfjFS8a6UVEBAch84q4PzXBKwsSve+pAWxXL1v7kVmxiC7lFeJ/Lpfn4WoSiwg= Received: by 10.86.100.7 with SMTP id x7mr6356926fgb.63.1201610907863; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:48:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560801290448o630bcbd6k163464f26dd5d853@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:48:27 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How do you make a rule? In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0801290019h38c452dcs147dd65370a5a12f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <284257.79900.qm@web27713.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <97f5058c0801290019h38c452dcs147dd65370a5a12f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 308 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/29/08, Penguino wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 3:46 PM, Isen hand wrote: > > > X3 of moi is a rule. How do you make a rule? If I want to > > say something like this is the 2nd largest hat that I have how would > > I express the rule "larger than" if I used moi? > > I believe [ka] works here: remoi fi le ka [ce'u] barda (second in > bigness/second biggest) That works under the assumptions that the things x2 are ordered by the amount of property x3 they have, and from most to least. Then x1 is the one that falls in the second place of that ordering. Both assumptions "amount of property" and "from most to least" seem to be natural enough, although it is not clear that the property itself is the rule. Giving an explicit rule would probably be something more complicated, something like "where the biggest one is first, and the (n+1)th is the biggest of those that remain after assigning n positions." mu'o mi'e xorxes