From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Mar 01 08:16:44 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JVUOB-0003Fu-9x for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:16:44 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JVUO4-0003Fe-0l for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:16:42 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so2928336rvf.46 for ; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Yc8JnU8zlqL+DaRtAFKXzhJJoU1TMc1BuUdmpA1nGHc=; b=DcZXQO/1xGsoZHOqBkxJmcR84XbN3DWercUhNpTVDdy2ky2mcyxYVTmpUx4VXyCeK+XK+mmDlWEx5Sy6nAvCcbQ1qzkp0WOBLEGVFoJNl1EuqMaphdsnJacXurOBR+aAmTJmQhPbAwzGA1lNNSdkWwhUjsy8G5xngDrsRIOkUrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qMK4QgCbsWIdp80JeDtMPIxbMu8L7Wq3hYbIgewVv4uijjgmr0FIstBosdQudrd4Ur1+G3DpevYUa2x3xSwDRKM4Y+mGwupWbUQtkmF3BNLVEve6G5OITuiPGj+PtkH8LJvZZFTBVasbke36xqbqhX575TnXp+J1WPgu0NDyiCE= Received: by 10.140.180.13 with SMTP id c13mr7147552rvf.153.1204388194249; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.70.10 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560803010816y1be8410ar9781db5cae0c632@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:16:34 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la jufra karni In-Reply-To: <200803010826.04106.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <574523.66819.qm@web62515.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200803010826.04106.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 391 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 29 February 2008 23:35, Liam Dalton wrote: > > If a man's > > brains were in his heels, were he not in danger of kibes? [...] > The sentence should begin {ganai da'i}; {gi} is a coordinating conjunction, > and needs something to coordinate with. This makes it two bridi, but one > jufra. There's also a question there, which makes me doubt about the {ganai...gi...} construction. Perhaps ge... gi... might be better: ge da'i lo besna be lo remna cu nenri lo jmati'e gi xu te ckape lo jmarixmlixai Both (supposing a man's brains in his heels) and (yes/no? danger of kibes). With {ganai...gi...} it would seem to say that in case a man's brains are not in his heels, (or in case no such suposition is made?) there's no need to answer. mu'o mi'e xorxes