From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 01 05:54:45 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgg0j-0001lW-2E for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:54:45 -0700 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgg0U-0001kl-Uw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:54:44 -0700 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z25so852288ele.0 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FK9Z5zprR72QvUL14QxBqLqwvhq65tIv5MMGXYX/HYk=; b=R5psFX9qdtBuqIAHB6Fjvj04jXG5kU6f44ykv+kNPSDE4z7SNuzTMAAY8cP/UbDb0QAfM+akTBtlM+Ao3yhJLmK3v9Z5t6J9wr21jrMK6CaKWdsiSmVxzkf835cjVkZLOy8yQ6p4M3aMuGqXgkwLQoAVjH3dbh9P0SrtRNUUquM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e0MK4rziVaodZ0AqbFCp4vlp6re/jEOGV77eZoIhVL9oNkfL8iEr9ny/hOEVj0SrsU1WTwt5kQTbiJC4yg6ke4g2HbQE+vfXEuNoMqvLOT3aUGpUyPm+ivnL8Nv6/QkVngGBc69R9Bnp3SfHrUi2p0UaYRk8wvhaYw59ZjpxjAg= Received: by 10.141.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr4263805rvi.67.1207054464004; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.87.17 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <96f789a60804010554l6ad68951h14d454ea8b28dbb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:54:24 -0400 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Picture book In-Reply-To: <200803312332.47635.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803312332.47635.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 416 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > rake, hoe, and spade: I think the rake could be {pudykomcu}, {canpa} covers > both "shovel" and "spade", but I don't know what to call a hoe. > Hadn't noticed that the original is three words. For hoe, might I humbly suggest "dakcna"? > basin: Might be {baktu}. > Hadn't noticed he skipped this picture. There is already a native gismu for this -- tansi > pansy: The English word is cognate to {pensi}, though what the flower has to > do with thought I don't know. So maybe {pesxrula}. > > robin: {ertaku} seems reasonable, based on the genus name, though the birds > called "robin" on the opposite sides of the Pond are different, and I'm not > sure which is the ertaku, or which is this one. Since this book was made in London, I am guessing that's a European robin (Eirthacus sp.). > > pigeon: {kolmba} for pigeons and doves in general, {tcacpi} for the kind that > hangs around cities, {papcpi} for the symbolic one. > > rabbit: You already used {ractu}, which covers both, for the hare. I suggest a > lujvo, but I'm not sure which. > I have no problem with the siple gismu for both, but if you feel the need to differentiate them, perhaps "clatu'e ractu" for the hare. > > fuchsia: {fuxcia} is valid, though jbofi'e denies it. > It is not permissible. refgram Chapter 3 section 6, line 4: 4) The specific pairs ``cx'', ``kx'', ``xc'', ``xk'', and ``mz'' are forbidden. --gejyspa