From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 01 06:09:21 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JggEr-0001nK-39 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:09:21 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JggEg-0001nA-7e for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:09:20 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1987443fga.0 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:09:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1z8IlMs0YEaGALYVuLQr3XTMy/Yy8gaFyhCj7h9nGF4=; b=lvF5nh2P7izDYTQSvbp5x0Tb7+vZzgbyLt01wqro6VTNsEJOuOaI4llWHeydB6fBe0ymNaQ6nsKtfY5awtACmxdlFcvqgb22jFwvpxYiM6LIXkMw4qPPirTf/NtdEkJET9AYM9ceJIs4uTLSO8DVITctHgP7j7Kp3Nzzi+Lik1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uVDZJSXwSe9NFco/ZVLkLnjKv51XYOxDWb+Z3+WOqE5P/JRqcx8N39KcTiPOd6j+N88PRBglDDad37y6lEcQSzDAK0CewSiHY0FNjkAfTg6QG3/XFurGpxl04vPVU4J+oUEsU7zY3SSqPnpc+0g9aob2yD5ZPbzJ72O1Zs1xUPE= Received: by 10.86.28.5 with SMTP id b5mr5386225fgb.47.1207054920150; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804010602u2dd4a6bek5876e5f6808c3310@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:02:00 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo bo In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0804010045l54aa4d21q5c56697fafc458e2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0803310712u446302b6j9a3b70fe3f68091c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311120m7b5175b7l6207e3cb495adca5@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0803311148p417ecf63k11d54ffc589b18c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311201x1190fa3j788d108a5c8e16bb@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0803311529w7550b697r3e98191ad129377c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311701n7fe0ef4bgd5585529580cfc82@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0804010045l54aa4d21q5c56697fafc458e2@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 418 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/1/08, Vid Sintef wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > In {gi'e -tense- bo} the tense acts as a connective > > between two bridi > > Does that mean that such a tense has no internal sumti like the one in > {pu [sumti] ku mi nelci do}? Right, it acts as a connective between two things, so at least in the case of {ca}, {pu} and {ba}, both arguments are accounted for. > > the function of {nau} as > > connective is not specified. > > Since {nau} is always an absolute "reference point", does it not > clearly tell an absolute perspective of the tenses of the connected > bridi? Not clearly for me. What are the two arguments of {nau}? What relationship does {nau} establish between them? mu'o mi'e xorxes