From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 01 08:30:12 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JgiR9-00027l-IF for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:30:11 -0700 Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JgiR1-00025c-Db for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:30:11 -0700 Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e21so1250508rng.6 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:29:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=p6VNhFTCT0Kl+C+PLNk+s3zNXNQQw4/c0OyyWN7RGPA=; b=c/hh82afd+yqkvAOcMR5JiYcEPjuBGhS5GoQWj6WYZDNmOKKdoOYMmD2+C6RM6X6FpAS01Pv4dFmSTQZPYAtlnpLV9Zf1K4MZ7YpIRTQ3LNwsW//EzZuGN2wJdtKs7KV28MKMFDY8EHhPIuknsp+boj2rA85ULifo3SMlh2P1Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HGHv5TbaGa0fX1YYKUz4MKNKlgiMf/N7KUlJSQwnvf/y/S0yz/8UP/FUmHHCUp7sUXUDMSlWnKjf815LPOzhwjBYZakLYwIEGtSTQrr0MFQfr8iqw5cHBeD4RtqYriwtDwHxD/5q920I1XGy1fNMcD78ZAboicjaEEpiCfw96mk= Received: by 10.115.18.1 with SMTP id v1mr12618563wai.81.1207063792180; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.136.19 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0804010829x792696efrb909039ab4e476a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:29:52 +0200 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo bo In-Reply-To: <925d17560804010732s789875cob48694bd7f4b8e0f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0803310712u446302b6j9a3b70fe3f68091c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311120m7b5175b7l6207e3cb495adca5@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0803311148p417ecf63k11d54ffc589b18c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311201x1190fa3j788d108a5c8e16bb@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0803311529w7550b697r3e98191ad129377c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560803311701n7fe0ef4bgd5585529580cfc82@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0804010045l54aa4d21q5c56697fafc458e2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560804010602u2dd4a6bek5876e5f6808c3310@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0804010710x33ec6a3ak5218856e8ba9bad1@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560804010732s789875cob48694bd7f4b8e0f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 423 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > For pu, ca, ba you can always make the relationship explicit like this: > > broda .i pu bo brode -> lo nu brode cu purci lo nu broda > broda .i ca bo brode -> lo nu brode cu cabna lo nu broda > broda .i ba bo brode -> lo nu brode cu balvi lo nu broda > > For {nau}, I would expect some selbri to express the nau-relationship: > > broda .i nau bo brode -> lo nu brode cu nau zei co'e lo nu broda > > but I'm not sure what that relationship would be. My example has {pu} in relation to {nau}. So: pu broda .i nau bo brode -> lo nu broda cu nau purci lo nu brode (or, lo nu broda cu purci lo nu nau brode) mu'o mi'e vid