From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Apr 02 13:53:16 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jh9xL-0002qj-3f for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:53:15 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jh9xH-0002qb-AT for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:53:15 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so2521647fga.0 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:53:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xaVhuZCbIvfP0VybwVpkU8pDqAEJDh9nP2ODUTTeQVA=; b=GMXhVsaD1oLpU/k/WJpXYM1V0QmgzEFDzqK7qhBbZDpZAN+l9pQTmxiy8KQ43Kci7vP1gahAHezms6sGAGIXaxrhL0/UUWyBVDoSoP0NAglHTJJAwEGPXfJ3OZmWfUzrOwrx0BhQFYIIZD28r3tdVaBgywnwLzOcnr60CssMAbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=geQSuBS6maTeb9ata8uOEtQG9XcJi6QLp8DQdA+9XhcjT+WQcMVDjdL9vluM5Ufpc/GhHMTmzyNwlQo4PMuZb2k0um0vxVu4ssvD6y/wHa64RxKI1iyKDHi5I7inL1aWDbHLzsZJPb1Yl6qzA5Dc0eNtmnPaRkic2zT+NuwYY+A= Received: by 10.86.76.16 with SMTP id y16mr6533834fga.23.1207169584811; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804021353s656b194v3f49909dff4d82b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:53:04 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: forbidden consonant pairs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 450 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:28 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 4/2/2008 04:42:27 AM Central Daylight Time, > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > 4) The specific pairs ``cx'', ``kx'', ``xc'', ``xk'', and ``mz'' > are forbidden. > > If "sx" and "xs" are allowed (and they are), then "cx" and "xc" should be > allowed too. "sx" and "cx" should even be valid initials. "sx" is the only valid pair that starts with "s" but is not a valid initial. > If "nz" is allowed, then "mz" should be. Ruling out one in favor of the > other makes no sense. Same with the triplets ntc, nts, ndj, ndz. And forbidding "xk" and "kx" while allowing "fp", "pf", "ts", "st", which are also stop and fricative pairs at the same point of articulation, is not very consistent. mu'o mi'e xorxes