From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 13 11:27:34 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jl6vN-000389-Lw for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:27:33 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jl6vI-00037s-Aq for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:27:33 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1211565fga.0 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:27:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BIl0xcGggkaJ+IFJjKaFuRGzp0tvoH6BEMXUgdNJCmg=; b=V5rBiO04Yn3lpcTvV2PbgHKwAjGXS8TOA5YTAytN0iCaXL7wFu8P6TcWIhi/GPqtW3dMvOxcoGbJMrR8NQsFq3cR9P5pzyGbHmMTeMfz/rK3iMmCo/piFDWk80X0jn0rZxP3Q/IwBREnpXvbNxSBf6KLUpsEly6skwLFfV6lw50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MULFkOU9Nk+mhLmjqMatnovhjP3NQvBIGnBvsD2Q4+fmGs/5OqQhV9gkgA70xs6UVtQIvigObrVK9gzPe9+Gmt3s5ojoJSkntU2oYjO1KHkfLZneGrN2xY+qQ44/GCaLDKKA37cXeUrbE5SFvSpBbSTropDXmjykydgBKYet9j4= Received: by 10.86.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr11448514fgb.18.1208111245354; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804131127k588f4fbctf9f8f1359ea06b25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:27:25 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mass vs. individual articles In-Reply-To: <914168.34348.qm@web58911.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <914168.34348.qm@web58911.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 474 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM, 32 foot wrote: > Could someone give me another, easier to understand explanation of mass vs. > individual articles? The distinction is relevant when a sumti has more than one referent. Compare: lei re nanla cu tsamau le ri patfu "The two boys (together) are stronger than their father." ro le re nanla cu tsamau le ri patfu "Each of the two boys is stronger than their father." {lei} indicates tat the referents of the sumti participate of the relationship together, rather than individually. mu'o mi'e xorxes