From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 15 11:21:50 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jlpmw-00065h-Co for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:21:50 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jlpml-00065A-69 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:21:50 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so2001535fga.0 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=65+uvt4/7q26Z2IVI/Icpdc7WbbsmF5p8Vdns1lIScQ=; b=Ttuk7o1MdDCuLck7x4NzrE1pT5H1VV7kqqTdcP6/tsEGfdVQgE74nVV7SFAJxcz6CmJ2EfdDoBawFAvrajzbTUtz2VeW0BZgV2lFZ2M87bEhdpSf5NfG9VWMpc8GuNnoWIqQGodFStOyXNEghL3c3Ts8EgxtK0RKh0ZcLqY/bgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H5KOAtjuUsHbWvikyq/np7NOJGdOgblXwpQ4G1wWGIDw5h4Wqo/kShDeP1+hnBz63ExYvwfLbJX0s7WG/BBJKnGFLR2/fpjvnNuSvy/KL/vhEhhdw2BlXLyU7wpwWeHPC0a9yO1JgrQHNR1Ky9VgG8aDoYM6aoetEbf5WQmQxTM= Received: by 10.86.82.16 with SMTP id f16mr16574296fgb.60.1208283697470; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804151121i6e26239bi238b6dee21927c16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:21:37 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: du'e preti In-Reply-To: <96f789a60804151103i74dd00a8r42e5a42bead1db66@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3477B383-2CA1-4BE4-AE34-6A50D819EA88@gmail.com> <96f789a60804151103i74dd00a8r42e5a42bead1db66@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 481 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > As for compound tenses, sure we > can interpret something like "mi pu klama ba de'a lo nu ciska" as "I > went after taking a break from writing" (although we can't tell from > this sentence if I went while I was still on break, or after > resumption of writing, merely that I went after the start of the > break). Others may argue this interpretation. I would argue it, because that would mean {bade'a} gets different compositional meanings when used as selbri tcita or as sumti tcita. As selbri tcita it indicates a later pause, but as sumti tcita it would indicate after a pause. mu'o mi'e xorxes