From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 20 09:24:55 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JncLW-0007BP-OE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:24:54 -0700 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JncLR-0007Ak-Nu for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:24:53 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m16so2187894waf.20 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:24:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bAVZHAxntHhFcVTVvSVDT2UG0bpFI0coJiuySurowbM=; b=jipyRHC0kJVl9LhxXXIygglNi3cz+trK4YVGuN0eBN+4MaGnAOBUy752qjJoMlPRgSqFA/Js6L9Hzg4CHmg3wdFEc6agJ+esndJmvwOtZRu+X2//VKjtCThGLg0CVdjMcDsuOwMjoOZDJnZvant+OAnWNiFFB2lbw7jikb4aZrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H1lYJk4TapXOdnvshzByi9z9r/OwZb1kb2eu+mqxmmxurq9K8xYVBuIFGR+U+750yfS63oM+YKj7OIzDdvCGfQbXo9jXQjePdqsBcj78Fc8tjrMMeOX4TXBYZlTqmS558Asibt8KhNP3lgxUJCxYDaZjlattY/hJahHU1KJt0iQ= Received: by 10.114.148.2 with SMTP id v2mr1934182wad.202.1208708683521; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.136.19 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0804200924p39e14f86y28b633bd16e9009e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:24:43 +0200 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: CAhA + ku In-Reply-To: <925d17560804200850p4b7b7bacob90546af94a72d53@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0804200749x7f7f4ac3w5548134d824bf970@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560804200850p4b7b7bacob90546af94a72d53@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 510 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > "other than right before the selbri and thus followed by a sumti" is not quite > right, it could be at the end of a bridi and thus neither before the selbri nor > followed by a sumti. Yes, I know that. My apology. I'm still bad at English. > In answer to the question, yes, you need {ku}, otherwise it is a sumti tag > and forms a term together with the following sumti. Every selbri tcita > can also be used as a sumti tcita. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes I wonder what kind of meaning a CAhA can bear by governing a sumti. In {ka'e mi do viska}, for example, what would be the translation of the sumti tcita (ka'e mi)? mu'o mi'e tijlan