From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 20 09:28:42 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JncPB-0007tX-HU for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:28:41 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JncP5-0007j6-Vj for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:28:40 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1260971fga.0 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IEGZq+ZT7iogx5RDH8zX49c+Kr11BVAXpCqUEosfo9c=; b=otlES1yJA1pxLEQT8tpznX9DLFq4Kq+mMAhybiXe8ib1mkFr9II2Je1tipYBbq9e5lIPkseQmrpLkjiB6I6TAEZAN1qBy+2j6/3vKj4wrRiwVtdQDEadHz8mZfzUqbUBcd7sbz9VmTFnAJNUeFj3iqdu8fU8CZ9W5eWQCW//xnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c6c1Qkr5nR7uBxrtFsHJRqFJKwler408M1nvvEpnGgv6RCYGGfVkqATiCF3yBDsXuqN+HXVEjBKBuaAp9/c5i0fcRMEMSwt9qrwQMGM5PhoqYLMGktiwAEvCnmVqUKlVg8nLjBHm1dszOsVw0P6jh+L+hUpYOrwKkV1R+YTrLhc= Received: by 10.86.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr10892050fgb.45.1208708911561; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804200928k374be99ep5177a0ae1c79cdf9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:28:31 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: tense/modal connective In-Reply-To: <200804201219.15701.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0804200837o1ad34e23uafac64b62dec00da@mail.gmail.com> <200804201219.15701.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 511 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 20 April 2008 11:37, Vid Sintef wrote: > > Can a pair of tenses/modals be connected in this way: > > > > mi le gusta vizo'a .enai mo'ine'i klama > > vizo'a jenai mo'ine'i ma? Do you mean "I went by the restaurant but didn't go > in", or "I passed by it, but didn't go in, on the way to the restaurant"? Does {mo'i ne'i} require actually going in, or just movement inwards? It would seem that {zo'a} excludes {mo'i ne'i} anyway, as they are incompatible directions. mu'o mi'e xorxes