From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 22 05:33:21 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoHgV-0001JI-El for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:33:21 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoHgE-0001G6-Rn for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:33:19 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1943360fga.0 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:32:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4K2hot0+xOQfW5t+reU6TNf5itoW0/Bd+W5DT/ijEc8=; b=Vg3TW2rFdH1pHS5ttQ7Nl2P1e1HnUAVdxd82IH8votrPnavwe9W1KJxrHRHNGAXqqgbAAUE1oNfzbU7KxnQ1NiC3peod2Rz5hi0LoS4caVhLAaxPww3ZutiiyndaCvlmMhOT3Ix6RNCgmAEWY18h55qDl107klka12vhC7/LHPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HCRECKYHqgsQoY6KZEHPKXIMb44fhJD4npy0HCphhFp0poE8XS2QxwLGabff0tvoCvVn0MvmsqgBNHqpvwtHIA1uL3bHbR3wJf83lLPW6dqZq+7oJDi32vXOhAhwYxK9JIkgU60AlwXnFSmy/cEuLk12xJvi0f3s3p5tCSTF9pg= Received: by 10.86.95.2 with SMTP id s2mr409187fgb.61.1208867567921; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804220532k2bf0967dla60496a9f5cac6d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:32:47 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mo ma In-Reply-To: <480D21DF.9080605@perpetuum-immobile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0804211433t2d33ebb5wd20fac042657e71c@mail.gmail.com> <480D21DF.9080605@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 522 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/21/08, Timo Paulssen wrote: > > The way I understood lojbanic questions until now is like this (doesn't hold > true for indirect questions with kau, though): > > The question word is kind of a placeholder for the grammatical thing you > want to have as your answer. > However, the way to answer isn't defined by the grammar of lojban, it's more > like a protocol. To me saying ma is like "I want to know what sumti goes > here", but it's not like "the lojban grammar now forces you to say a sumti > and in all of our heads it will magically appear inside the spot where ma > was before". I think that's exactly right. > So what I would answer to your question is this: > Say what's most sensible. In this case I personally would answer with {go'i > lo tolcitno prenu lo grana}. Or you could answer {tolcitno .i lo grana} if you wanted to be extremely terse. mu'o mi'e xorxes