From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 22 10:48:29 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoMbU-00047t-25 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:48:28 -0700 Received: from cpe-071-075-215-096.carolina.res.rr.com ([71.75.215.96] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoMbK-00045a-5D for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:48:27 -0700 Received: from chausie (chausie.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6040CE892 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:48:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: relative phrase within tanru Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:48:06 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <2f91285f0804220829t7733c6bcx3e99fc6be16640ac@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0804220926h63f5d474y14dd7ec85c5b2d2a@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560804221030k253afcafp9e11e6d16ea539a3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560804221030k253afcafp9e11e6d16ea539a3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804221348.06883.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 22 X-Spam-Bar: ++ X-archive-position: 528 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tuesday 22 April 2008 13:30, Jorge Llambías wrote: > The first one is a sumti built from the selbri {melbi mlatu co > me do}. This selbri can be predicated of something, and {le} > uses this description to get to the intended referent. Given a selbri which has {co} in it, how do I get the equivalent selbri without {co}? If there are more than two components, I'm not sure how {co} affects grouping. Pierre