From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 22 12:01:00 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoNjf-0005ZM-QF for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:00:59 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JoNjU-0005Yj-Aa for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:00:59 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so744135nfv.46 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ybv2HmeiJL1qZhfE76iVdruOj3Iit2jRqv+Cw2AGLuM=; b=iClFnJ4Ty3pO9F5XX6phr70oX1+t+3uJWU6xnPMWaxg3RX/L46F2fkYwNkPSxI7oNvS1U8hF/IksO0DoGvZO6f9pwWp2DDn7myQZC2pUG1yYcXFDHG3LTFqmThqjW9LMCuDEAEsLoQI/ntLepixqXvzmf0ASHz0daADs7xErs9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IJOL7SZcHdNe8QKPURfb9lkB2aPhrF+qp5LN/YZLWNamcxDx+w5q84kChvkvl35jrycO82I6W05xfv1FF2n8w53M3Kerj0qtGVLBpGvrRZBUU4AfuTXJ7woDyv4cbjkUBCixA/14vmTitqHid5777hrae1XPc9sgwWQ1QBnskNs= Received: by 10.86.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr1106552fgb.65.1208890845442; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560804221200v740a7a12y211de7a80899ea15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:00:45 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: relative phrase within tanru In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0804221130o415174e7ha3ca1fb84b9f8a13@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0804220829t7733c6bcx3e99fc6be16640ac@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560804220859p6a74e3f3m6416373909e7d576@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0804220926h63f5d474y14dd7ec85c5b2d2a@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560804221030k253afcafp9e11e6d16ea539a3@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0804221130o415174e7ha3ca1fb84b9f8a13@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 532 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/22/08, Vid Sintef wrote: > > żIs it not possible for a {pe} phrase to be before {ku}, like NOIs can: > {le melbi mlatu poi do ponse ke'a ku'o ku broda}; > {le melbi mlatu pe do ge'u ku broda}? Yes, relative clauses can be placed before the ku, after the ku or between the gadri and the selbri. But they always relate to the sumti as a whole, not to any component of the sumti. mu'o mi'e xorxes