From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 16 09:05:20 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 16 May 2008 09:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jx2Qp-0005Al-OB for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:05:19 -0700 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jx2Qe-0004xO-U5 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:05:19 -0700 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so109210gve.36 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/O7lZ6WwcS+MCli8VF7Kwf9wTjeGa+Twy7QNijZdUkc=; b=s+ZfdF1pElU4E8hFOCoKublBFti6yes3WBmnhicJwIIjl4JQwaw1U8J7EXGpGpfsVD7HR7eoCYOOm6QTWpdweGJRWKAkelKGginDoS8aSTtukPO0Pf81PMv5hIn8UPs3YumWxjnuwdkDbDdbZNbHNMuqRQPn9TuqVxx1MW98k3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uX0qRG1xL5ZPTq243THkQV7c47X5TXckk4cq7dWMvtGFtBGiZ3cvxAH83rK5OdWTViMBAJgCkDbI5tnkabQ7pixDgQe+K1KhEv3iuokQVs/B5K7SPDVpzd0hSSZqhDHafEN6MVtwNokX0NTItdZYo6d7X+lc9wa8KIeuArrSWcQ= Received: by 10.125.135.16 with SMTP id m16mr2731741mkn.84.1210953902827; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560805160905k2255d16aj72fddc6c2c8890e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:05:02 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: translation attempt In-Reply-To: <200805151959.34975.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200805151959.34975.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 559 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 5/15/08, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > For a chapter-and-verse citation, I'd say "papi'emumoi be la gutra cukta". "se > cu'u le 1:5moi..." might be right; what does someone else think? I think this is a place for {sei} rather than {se cu'u}, since the source is not really one of the arguments of the cited selbri. Something like {sei le 1:5moi be la gutra cukta cu se/te sitna}. mu'o mi'e xorxes