From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon May 26 01:51:52 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 26 May 2008 01:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0YQq-0008Dj-TN for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:51:52 -0700 Received: from horse.iptelecom.net.ua ([212.9.224.8]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0YQm-0008DX-5i for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:51:52 -0700 Received: from h169.248.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.248.169]:19136 "HELO Cohen2" ident: "SOCKFAULT1" whoson: "yitzik") by horse.iptelecom.net.ua with SMTP id S1228369AbYEZIvp (INRCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2008 11:51:45 +0300 Message-ID: <119C0B344EF0448ABD8F47C56483A7E5@Cohen2> From: "I.Penzev" To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Yitzik asks his first questions Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:50:46 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1251"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: -6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 582 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: isaacp@ukr.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners coi rodo mi'e .itsik. .i mi xabju le vurgu'e .i mi puzi co'a cilre fi la lojban. I'd like to ask a couple of questions concerning Lojban grammar usage. If I understand correctly, ti botpi loi birje means 'this is a bottle of beer'. How should I say 'I bought a bottle of beer'? mi pu terve'u lo botpi be loi birje ? I'd like also to know cliches for such structures as - 'I've got a new car'/'I've got a wife and two children'; - 'There is a book on the table'; - 'May I play this computer game?' - 'Let us go for a short walk'. mu'o mi'e .itsik.