From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 27 05:54:48 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 27 May 2008 05:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0yhU-0007bj-11 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:54:48 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.248]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0yhO-0007bU-Vm for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:54:47 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2423494rvf.46 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:54:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=AhFlE+vIleb1P0M10lxDgTMyOOmYrYfEznQBR9Ta2Eo=; b=PZIhtlv0ZXtzag9Z0x2OgxbeR+4zm1GikZB4Nwlej9F/dJ39C02eelyyA0ayJq2obu4PA6TZyPkjbevAY/RrXB5MgYNujQQs+b3+tbBJ7L4IXm6TH9u8biBP/avoGnUDgNH4gi5+IDPtf/jlryK5+yDa1yoXXZ0pUL1ID6GAu+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SGDobcE0UDJ6279DY/3A9O1JzmvJlg4RvsLeNlLEi146Ym5j8F93SCyu/rKvMkJ70eUSmoJ0aygDCB381cOvIO7MEQXZ1+g4jNDHEykHBLrGrwJ+j0O3+dqYYeHNVh7MnC3M7DsHwT1BUPhqEqy65GbQJ+qguTYaCA3Fq1cUpI8= Received: by 10.141.128.19 with SMTP id f19mr519487rvn.257.1211892881777; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.162.14 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <96f789a60805270554g7500700ci3b1b0d568105a658@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:54:41 -0400 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Agriculture and fisheries In-Reply-To: <597120.75964.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <597120.75964.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 605 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:43 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Michael Turniansky >> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org >> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:53:54 AM >> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Agriculture and fisheries >> >> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:14 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> >> >> Hmmm... Well, it depends on how you want to define the terms. As >> >> an activity, cagycu'u/fipkatcu'u. As an industry, >> >> cagygundi/fipkatygundi. As an art/science, caglarcu/fipkatlarcu >> > I have a problem with your use of {gundi}. In my view the gismu clearly >> defines >> > {gundi} to be the manufacturing industry. How would you then distinguish >> > manufacturing from fisheries and agriculture? >> > >> > >> Frankly, I had the same problem, but they ARE producing finished >> products (food) from raw materials (fish, plants). > OK, but my question still stands. If, for example, you were describing > the economy of a country and comparing the sizes of different sectors, > what would you call the manufacturing sector ? Fisheries and agriculture > are always treated separately. > By "manufacturing", you mean putting together stuff to make other stuff? That is nunzba (or, to be consistent with the others, zbagundi) --gejyspa