From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 28 08:37:27 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1NiR-0008W4-LX for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:27 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1NiL-0008Vl-6H for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:27 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2630338wfg.25 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=HnXSmGxt9lmFYwMcgwP/59nNzUL5fOpB+yiKa2JBFgE=; b=w5Mi+K3ZLYwuzajNPBJP5qNCVtUo4W1BJHBlJYijCrVkvlhkReAU0eQwtn93FLanlCR2I3/VY4EhdQKWmPeLCR+Tmcf/JIZLiZ49rGCbTPGkOTecC5JO2oz+ESuqwTYCStvmcLbhpjQujzTlwh+X75cf1Se53AKFf99Lut2UV20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bDLFqfl63Lm8UKHGYTMF4JpWymkk6xFqnOeJv+DwmLIgs19kASxhcYyBzGN6TDbRctjPSSS+L7JLro/i8YKpW0U1pBMDpEilCJ3L7JCbmu7urHnb2To31j61/LUDDlK8ZDGN1xmeBDSh+ZNNrvydcQsGJ7/ckKtjZHQqK155MO0= Received: by 10.142.87.7 with SMTP id k7mr1098224wfb.167.1211989040332; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.4 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160805280837g372830abu3dd14bbbdd0f04f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:37:20 -0400 From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "What is Lojban" In-Reply-To: <136898.6891.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8905_26761694.1211989040329" References: <136898.6891.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c3ae87c2d95ac002 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_8905_26761694.1211989040329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:12 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > Can anybody help unravel the confusion surrounding "What is Lojban" > We appear to have two different texts under this name. The first is > a course authored by Bob Le Chevalier which can be found at > http://www.lojban.org/no/publications/draft-textbook/lesson01. > This does not seem to be finished, but is superb nonetheless. > There are in-depth explantions for just about everything, but written in > a way that anybody can understand. The excercises are great too! > Question: Why wasn't it completed and why is there no reference to > it in the Lojban for Beginners section of the Lojban website: > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lojban+For+Beginners&bl ? > The "What is Lojban" referred to on the above web page is something quite > different. This is an introductory booklet written by Nick Nicolas and > James Cowan, > certainly not a course. > Question: Why was it given the same title? In brief, that first link is to a text called *not* "What is Lojban?", but rather to the "[Old] Draft Textbook". http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Old+Draft+Textbook&highlight=draft%20textbook "What is Lojban?" looks like the title of the opening section. mu'o mi'e komfn ------=_Part_8905_26761694.1211989040329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:12 AM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
Can anybody help unravel the confusion surrounding "What is Lojban"
We appear to have two different texts under this name.  The first is
a course authored by Bob Le Chevalier which can be found at
http://www.lojban.org/no/publications/draft-textbook/lesson01.
This does not seem to be finished, but is superb nonetheless.
There are in-depth explantions for just about everything, but written in
a way that anybody can understand.  The excercises are great too!
Question: Why wasn't it completed and why is there no reference to
it in the Lojban for Beginners section of the Lojban website:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lojban+For+Beginners&bl ?
The "What is Lojban" referred to on the above web page is something quite
different. This is an introductory booklet written by Nick Nicolas and James Cowan,
certainly not a course.
Question: Why was it given the same title?

In brief, that first link is to a text called *not* "What is Lojban?", but rather to the "[Old] Draft Textbook". http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Old+Draft+Textbook&highlight=draft%20textbook
 "What is Lojban?" looks like the title of the opening section. mu'o mi'e komfn

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