From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 23 19:49:25 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KAyaz-0002zo-0W for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:49:25 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KAyav-0002zf-1P for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:49:24 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1167503fga.0 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:49:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jmPN+ZCpdGt3MM0trfdIozAwWI61m7GFg3H0/b++GRA=; b=Y3m2YJ4Jej/9z0GqmLZQ05mhGvIL3zJB8qMTKmXkzlv9K8HjXU/R/uASm5mxGOAuU1 Bq4W1UnGQ3ua27/ROn4MISUVp/QsMwIRFvZ9Uu7qkBxpjJe0uI6OSwohjnoHq4GfWoQ/ phG7O+pMZZgi8UBjDREjZ2RWo7/1l9uum77Tw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cRApj/MoAlQ7P26iR08NR73CRviML89WiX6qxqIY6h2seT8+54uWT9soz9I/vX3WBg d7KeJSwbQPdqNdsu2ZpOIqM71sGDw548XoQzQSoMnweWFBYRxNx5dbxjmzuq3IGquC2B yDG2youZmxSWpkNoGBGWrcz7NkA/GDIdOH3as= Received: by 10.86.27.9 with SMTP id a9mr8280197fga.57.1214275759410; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.89.11 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560806231949h10a4f87cn15a5e108c250644f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:49:19 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: indicator attachment In-Reply-To: <737b61f30806231825s228e2f7w45070561f8a0ed9e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30806231825s228e2f7w45070561f8a0ed9e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 648 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Chris Capel wrote: > More alice questions! Yay! > > The PEG groups {lahe dihu laha certu} as [{lahe (dihu laha)} ]. > As I understand it, indictors like {la'a} do indeed attach to the word > on their left. Right. > Does this mean that that sentence ought technically to > be {lahe dihu certu laha}, or {laha lahe dihu certu}? It depends what the intended meaning was. It could be that {la'a} does modify {di'u}. x1 of {certu} is supposed to be a person, so {la'e di'u} doesn't seem to make much sense there. If it was {jetnu} instead of {certu}, the difference would be someting like: la'a la'e di'u jetnu "Probably that's true." la'e di'u la'a jetnu "It's probably that which is true." >If my > understanding is correct, then I don't need to change my parser to be > less misleading. :) The parser is doing the right thing. The sentence doesn't seem to make sense with or without {la'a}. mu'o mi'e xorxes