From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 23 20:19:40 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KAz4G-0004hF-5T for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:19:40 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KAz4A-0004gz-Je for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:19:40 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so899658ywm.46 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:19:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1y7RZJgx4jJc4YF721IvQWLCAaCU9fMLcl32XP4AMtY=; b=bHvOlDrnEzhaahSTrr5pbLuZ4YlFGPAANqz1JF2tpTr0r+bGIEoWloc2H2Sq8Fk8gQ 3tMz/knuugHYAN5wFfFKPsUPR0cTLap6F/zlgpzALLQq7k88ite8HhOVk+MeHX7VOjRR R1GQUp885rSQkUiZ/vdT8iLVL4nTKblkeGs2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Ddpp3SZwjKO2RPVCZIjR5ZeXtF0AHEZP1zOkxFlE7U9wOmbh1tnJN582mwYpm8ve9R 3st8Myo+hQO1JoMK04JLUpQDKYJvL1RusRgNk0m472lRDwMWceDlPe8dUGCmdQl6JUlY OKDmQxVz8DdJMJwSUNhXut2MbzqFIDu2OC844= Received: by 10.143.4.16 with SMTP id g16mr4830815wfi.289.1214277572378; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.21 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30806232019p285bfe55v4d337c5f09e61521@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:19:21 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: indicator attachment In-Reply-To: <925d17560806231949h10a4f87cn15a5e108c250644f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30806231825s228e2f7w45070561f8a0ed9e@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560806231949h10a4f87cn15a5e108c250644f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 649 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > It depends what the intended meaning was. It could be that {la'a} > does modify {di'u}. x1 of {certu} is supposed to be a person, so > {la'e di'u} doesn't seem to make much sense there. If it was {jetnu} > instead of {certu}, It was. Silly me. Full context: i u'o mi noda cusku va'o ji'asai le nu mi farlu fi le drudi be le zdani tosa'a la'e di'u la'a jetnu toi You know, it seems to be that la alis is not a very polished work. On the other hand, maybe our standards for polish are rising over time. With Lojgloss, I, a beginning-to-intermediate student of Lojban, can catch tiny errors in word positioning or terminators that even an expert reading unaided would often miss. Even an expert using jbofi'e might miss them, because jbofi'e is less readable. Now, this particular error is not all *that* subtle, but... Anyway, what's the preferred way to make changes to Alice? I have the texinfo files from here[1]--should I just send someone diffs? (I refuse to use CVS. It scares me. Deeply.) Chris Capel [1] http://lojban.org/texts/translations/alice.html -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet)