From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jul 20 09:36:42 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KKbtq-0000NP-C6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:36:42 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.179]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KKbtn-0000NH-8z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:36:42 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b50so514431pyh.30 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:36:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JRG9oH24qMDpKOjJYiBF6dK3fWg5OiMD56Yc2b+0ojo=; b=Dreqwc/oP0Zyblii26FA4e2Mwx/OCIhLHBu5Vp1Cym9cA1lhfR8j8SzHA6QK35agUh lOtPWUZeVL9gE1tOHO9GZGtddA0np0DPDakn1FHBtnQk9HM1CfDiJxs+cfEwgQSgYZsq RwTtDSIQJK1ypcYYcQ04UJGPF0qbEwxONAh2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BcM5Z3f+35x1cdJfUuE+CIL/2jTdmtbFFQrV+nkmns/19G+9dvXUxVB6XpvZwHElcA c6+b+PuF6MF8slKg1J9W3NY0vNNYKepHHfQvjii4lpMvVRy4wRlRNn4L5/zNhYfGs7cD Q39hm18EtZFETZqaGRp6p77p8JiL9NTvG5aTo= Received: by 10.64.180.15 with SMTP id c15mr3531514qbf.89.1216571797906; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?96.24.167.105? ( [96.24.167.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k27sm5982468qba.10.2008.07.20.09.36.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48836991.4090809@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:36:33 -0400 From: peter hering User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] modals and references Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 683 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pjhering@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners jboski finds the following sentence satisfactory: mi puzi mo'u cu tinju'i le snavei cukta me'e la'o gy confessions of an economic hitman gy fi'e la djan.perkins. Is this the correct use of the modals me'e and fi'e? My intention is to say that the books title is 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' and that the book's author is John Perkins. How do I know to what me'e and fi'e refer?