From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jul 20 12:47:09 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KKes9-0002l2-4t for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:47:09 -0700 Received: from cpe-071-075-215-096.carolina.res.rr.com ([71.75.215.96] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KKes5-0002jo-Pt for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:47:08 -0700 Received: from chausie (chausie.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94D4CEAD4 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:46:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: modals and references Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:44:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <48836991.4090809@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <48836991.4090809@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807201544.09142.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 22 X-Spam-Bar: ++ X-archive-position: 686 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sunday 20 July 2008 12:36:33 peter hering wrote: > jboski finds the following sentence satisfactory: > mi puzi mo'u cu tinju'i le snavei cukta me'e la'o gy confessions of an > economic hitman gy fi'e la djan.perkins. > > Is this the correct use of the modals me'e and fi'e? My intention is to > say that the books title is 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' and that > the book's author is John Perkins. How do I know to what me'e and fi'e > refer? Both of them are modifying "tinju'i". They should be joined to "cukta" with "be" (or "pe", which will join them to the sumti "le snavei cukta"). Pierre