From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 23 07:42:20 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KLfXn-0000cp-0t for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:42:20 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.246]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KLfXf-0000cR-PJ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:42:18 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1942506rvf.46 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:42:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=F+ovwIQRM/2DZr2tWxGX2t91Qz5sis8thzHMXKFyOwk=; b=vkr+r6k8iry/53Ez08eeDcjPrDBdzTb+MPugfP7PXE8ECMrOQ1hpeIKO5NNa+BWCUU TGNMpoHklQTAUUmw5d4O6KJzxxtWrLq1h8HL6ueDK+Sud2h58IWdb3DOFo05U6RKcSCr Eaz5ITPop4Wdoh3MHuQ3aTLeDp9TqC9ms9zJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=fd8jXrm4MfVFuzfjbF+eDnps3Z4NP70lXRVo1CPICrJ+HGkjjRA0mwFx8OTXbRi6eN 5I31z4vMzWARB37lH66gGRMej/92ldbsQB3csnxx8fd5CCrIZa0tSFaACTaS3GY3yXjN 5hgCF4lRczZe3hNZ7XlsG/w/oWnUYNBJ8B9rE= Received: by 10.141.132.1 with SMTP id j1mr112628rvn.64.1216824129599; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.96.7 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:42:09 -0400 From: "Brett Williams" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: ke'a In-Reply-To: <737b61f30807221604g6689eda4v963736d5c708936b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86069_7343023.1216824129595" References: <2f91285f0807211642n258bb4d2t9a98c9589c037c60@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60807220548r3f94b667w5ec9a5a2af89c762@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560807220629m32d0ae9eld1ac1acbc2d3af94@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60807220812o6e1e7e00jf26a0c79d24c85@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560807220924k4a67e3aejd2bd64867a4b16ba@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60807220944g64b25921hb301ef3936e7e052@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560807221100y6de75a3ep38d488b7c6aa4d1a@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60807221307k6063b0ecp29233454f1d6da0@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30807221555w581ce6b9idcf0f4e11cc126ac@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30807221604g6689eda4v963736d5c708936b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 716 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_86069_7343023.1216824129595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/22/08, Chris Capel wrote: > > > on which point CLL appears to be ambiguous. For any ninpre who are reading this conversation, you might be relieved to know that "poi", "zi'e" and "po'o" are all used daily in Lojban with very little practical confusion. Multiple levels of "ke'a", while rare, can also be used very clearly and cleanly in real circumstances. These folks are arguing fine points of interpretation, which is fine (although this is perhaps not the list for it), but I wanted to make sure people out there aren't getting the impression that these words & grammars are for the most part theoretical or still under dispute. We say these things all the time and we do understand each other when we say them. So, no worries. <3, se ckiku (selkik) ------=_Part_86069_7343023.1216824129595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
On 7/22/08, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.= com> wrote:

on which point CLL appears to be ambiguous.


F= or any ninpre who are reading this conversation,&n= bsp;you might be relieved to know that "poi",= "zi'e" and "po'o" are all used&= nbsp;daily in Lojban with very little practical confusion.&n= bsp; Multiple levels of "ke'a", while rar= e, can also be used very clearly and cle= anly in real circumstances.  These folks are = arguing fine points of interpretation, which is fi= ne (although this is perhaps not the list for it),=  but I wanted to make sure people out there aren't = getting the impression that these words & grammars are for th= e most part theoretical or still under dispute.  We say thes= e things all the time and we do understand each other when we say them. &nb= sp;So, no worries.
 
<3,
se ckiku (selkik)

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