From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jul 30 16:45:26 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KOLMD-0004Dz-U5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:26 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KOLMB-0004Dr-4m for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:25 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so240014rvf.46 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=j+BP3iSC0pAbIPjwTB3tb2ijWCn0gdijKLWVgQfjv0g=; b=lTybovHtE+CV/FdLyIVS9GvIeTJZGvmSfayhR6zhI2zzhOKktmvS1FpcKaQkp1pOfz z96LbqESi0Fv9brVo+IRGW1Kt5IYevXbq62Uj8FEUgTkSHh4+tweJdPykmFDpLfJW0+R eDL0zZiMt65AGbEZQhlrlSwG8XCOidtijo3BY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uRzlzRgdWhSH9+76AONZ2aqHC+KKiFXrboyLxFJ9xwktGcoBiZwgzuWMl96KSuD3LS vBVnLXJER3sjQws0RkZCbJ1IA2Xvj0YLv2wUzmPhzG8kBLrxChZ8HhS7MrA4ZMlBx8uU VJieCaiSUSUKh3LGWFABHTWcjaKSUP8cGkcfo= Received: by 10.141.136.8 with SMTP id o8mr4911513rvn.271.1217461522244; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.153.20 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:45:22 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hello, and owning things.. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 733 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners It's not a pluralization thing. "lo mi gerku" means the general idea of all dogs you might ever own, without implying that you have any. "le mi gerku" means a particular dog of yours which you have in mind, but carries no implication about whether you have any others. It's like the difference between saying "email was invented for the internet" and you mean email in general, or "I got an email" in which case you have in mind a particular emailed text. -Eppcott On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Mark wrote: > Hi everyone! :) Just writing to introduce myself as I'm trying to pick up > Lojban through the Lojban for Beginners lessons, but I have a question about > owning things.. > > If I want to talk about "my dog", is that "lo mi gerku" or "le mi gerku"? > My current understanding of how those words work, is that "le mi gerku" > would imply that I have several dogs and I'm talking about a particular one > of them that I have in mind - but then does "lo mi gerku" imply "my, one, > dog" or "any of my, several, dogs", or an ambiguity between these? > > Mark > > > ________________________________________________ > Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 > > > > >