From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 06 18:05:55 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KQtwx-0006fP-0J for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:05:55 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KQtwu-0006fI-An for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:05:54 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so123758ywm.46 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:05:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zf+qO4YoBzyrVoZvySsz9swEZHunY90jfJI8AToMXFE=; b=sVM7Vu17U67HdPSw5nQh0XQJR/jvJTx11scuQzOiq3xN/OUfckCCUwKCcLXYYHb9vo 9i7WL9IoF16h9U8MgxwXuXRiniQv1llrV+PMuJmRAIuX8r/vztqCKtnIVZmtrGj3sb9a USvoHiCCXjlhgZflOAZ5BPcTkmWrg/YQVtahI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sn8ru2ttMeuqQkdbBe5n2mO3Xfexplmv+pKgSUpx57BCCmxsdJzCsjAN60BEXENphJ bs/TgfT12sYoHyyjrD163X4WkCWtlvjvcUg9aINeBnuJf/5NY0PLNRWPbNU2u8wNRv1L ciNpUaqAtYN5482suRJau+beXUnmPYkH0L6Tw= Received: by 10.150.204.12 with SMTP id b12mr4290106ybg.245.1218071150924; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?96.24.167.105? ( [96.24.167.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm5216245yxs.5.2008.08.06.18.05.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <489A4A6C.6090305@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:05:48 -0400 From: peter hering User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] feedback please Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 17 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 791 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pjhering@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I wrote the following for my blog. I am certain it is rife with errors and even more certain that I distorted or omitted much of the meaning. Any suggestions for improvement would be much appreciated.

ni'o mi terve'u ci le me la .reskius. me'u feska'e sfani terkavbu goi ry .ije punji ry ne'i le sasfoi ti'a le mi zdani .isa'u ry gunma lo slasi dakli .e lo vorme sekai le nerkla po'o .i ry se nenri lo tolmelbi panci purmo noi jmina lo djacu ca le nu se bregau .i za'a ry zmadu fi le ka kavbu be lo sfani .i so'i sfani cu .audai klamu'o .iji'a ne'i le dakli cu se viska lo terpa se lifri be lo sfani .i se fulta le cpina litki lo ba'e so'i morsi cinki .i le cy se kavbu kansa noi ca'o jmive cu vruri'a gi'e cpare ve'a ga'u .i mi ganse ca le lamprudo'i le nu lo panzi cu tolcanci .i la'e di'u sinxa le nu lo sfani cu mo'u gletu ca le nu pu'o morsi .i la'e di'u sinxa le nu lo .uinaidai se dimna sfani cu mo'u gletu ca le nu pu'o morsi .i mi kucli le si'o xu se cumki le nu mau re remyma'utei cu ka'e jmive ne'i le feska'e dakli .i la'u ma zungi fa mi le terpa tcini

I bought three Rescue Disposable Fly Traps and hung them up in my backyard. They are basically a plastic bag with a little funnel attached on the top. There is some god-awful smelling powder inside to which you add water when it's time to use. Well, they work remarkably well. The flies are swarming. And inside is a vision of fly hell. Floating in the foul liquid are hundreds, thousands, of dead insects. Their still living cellmates buzz and crawl around on top of them. I noticed yesterday that maggots had appeared. This means that some poor doomed fly bothered to coupulate while waiting to die. I wonder if it is possible to have a second or even a third generation live their entire lives within the confines of the disposable bag. To what degree should I feel guilty about having participated in this nightmare scene?

mu'o mi'e pit