From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 22 12:03:04 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KWbuY-0002fq-G3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:03:03 -0700 Received: from web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KWbuS-0002el-5E for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:03:01 -0700 Received: (qmail 2657 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2008 19:02:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FZUaekD33L3e12Bn5172vg1Fm5HURpuBueqi91USfQqqEY4/OtrKw3BcEVSLw2ObKGN2ReV2vZh+FDXWK9ZqgMTSmrfnR+VVo+Fj3p30KOMFSjsnBCWp95pmlLt0iiHjtgo37aJ9CMnMIIQRPfIM20vvasdC3B4A9hSpnyHGe9A=; X-YMail-OSG: o3WT.IsVM1lNaVLzJD0Q_8Un1Zj7mYK5qIH7dn2DS6raZzP.xS0V_M8wtpduw7v8MxlkCnMU3G81fxF1xqUYpN9CSG600PqCmftkNlzEjQ-- Received: from [99.229.22.193] by web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:02:48 PDT Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Ingersoll's creed - laboriously To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-ID: <922079.1851.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 834 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > > I guess the difficult bit is {jai bu'u}. {jai bu'u} is similar to a cmavo from > selma'o SE. It re-orders the arguments of a brivla, bringing in this case > the bu'u-argument to x1 and sending the old x1 to a new place tagged > with {fai}. > > So for example, if you have: > >     mi tavla do bu'u lo panka >     I talk to you in the park. > > you can transform it, by re-ordering the places of {tavla}, into: > >     lo panka cu jai bu'u tavla do fai mi >     The park is where talk to you I. So 'the place in which I am happy is Toronto' would be {lo jai bu'u gleki be fai mi cu me la torontos}?  > mu'o mi'e andrus