From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 29 07:18:42 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkJaE-000134-3H for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:18:42 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkJa8-00012C-MO for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:18:41 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8TEIXte004061 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:18:33 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m8TEIWhw025333 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:18:32 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:18:32 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban forms of names Message-ID: <20080929141830.GA18902@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5627810d0809290632u629019f9h654c8f96105a59d8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5627810d0809290632u629019f9h654c8f96105a59d8@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 890 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners de'i li 29 pi'e 09 pi'e 2008 la'o fy. Donald McLean .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > One of my children has a name that starts with an 'H'. As near as I > can tell, the only use of this sound in Lojban is the apostrophe to > separate two vowels. What, then are the most common approaches for > handling this situation when converting names? .skamyxatra An 'H' at the beginning of a name is almost always Lojbanized into an 'x', which makes the sound of a voiced 'H' (the sound doesn't naturally exist in English, so I'm not sure how best to explain it). mu'omi'e la'o gy. Minimiscience .gy. -- do ganai ka'e tcidu dei gi djuno lo dukse