From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 29 09:08:31 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkLIV-00007A-EG for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:31 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkLIR-00006V-Rh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:31 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2318608wfa.25 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nwyYFzZKIL3xGwx3R01JF51PLio176kjRZm7sVa3Fg8=; b=rddfkiQxViGd42KZ/4LlTWqHG8jWCJ9ACCbziVWWh8pi7wPRqCYbFVwWkAZr1SnBv8 5DdviB9GsSca8mwXvdOeN0Hic2jg8g4K9KmfM0oa5CzDhf1lFYueo0buBKQ5rtL70fOq rxmshdQOaGb9c+duuEmky69RnEYw6TmIY2M0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WTxeB1sEN9ahdI7ifLmZ+InVERDqBqz2mYPSSLq78YBDUS8XAL+VJl/vwAwWOsePsc jPpTM0uEzcQ6LNA1TMIrhEPtrhYvaZ7YoxgxtO0ziyu3xya56aUd6FGKHInppHxJZNtu xx5mI+VzU7Hw4mbeTVgGyVVAey7iDdV3YKfu8= Received: by 10.115.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr5984641wai.98.1222704506290; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.16.9 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0809290908o21cb127fu2219ef94f50f4b4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:08:26 +0200 From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban forms of names In-Reply-To: <925d17560809290854x9d3d1fav9eff424bf87f9e82@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <5627810d0809290632u629019f9h654c8f96105a59d8@mail.gmail.com> <20080929141830.GA18902@sdf.lonestar.org> <5627810d0809290736y50db405cx3fc0e0be36a4387f@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560809290745j4aac99bdqfc76f53438bb97a1@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0809290834y207ced27vd349dcfbc8cf27af@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560809290854x9d3d1fav9eff424bf87f9e82@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 905 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:34 PM, tijlan wrote: >> >> Would it be not possible to use something like "-" as a consonant >> placeholder? Example: >> >> Angela --> la .andjela-. >> Antonio --> la .antonio-. > > Those two happen to be grammatical, but they are fu'ivla rather than > cmevla. (Cluster "ndj" is not allowed actually, but if it were, it > would be a fu'ivla.) But that's not always an option. For example {la > .sara-.} parses as thee cmavo: la sa ra > > mu'o mi'e xorxes I suppose that is because {-} isn't counted as a consonant equal to {s} in the first place. What if the parser is designed so that it treats {-} just like {s}? mu'o mi'e tijlan