From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 06 14:35:54 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KmxkA-0004d2-Hd for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:54 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kmxk7-0004cn-FX for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:54 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so496693ywm.46 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cSY3aKjaJcaYk/FY4wEXNwjnuAUAY3JmaXI6vzyj9DY=; b=EfYGH3+0tXqgJK+bCnzFoD21jYr4Sar7oujWZM7LIUN1KuzTmtf2HtYpp5OdghIcdn e/iZtea015CuD8t5M8lL2EIdqH74eEmv0urA+3Dop86iCCuoXwGc9XUvJWWfRdzcgTu+ fKe6hFNhMJ2/MreDxnhwPtLi4ETJO/VhBvMt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YPxl0QOBglyJkVyC6MzpnO5hgOju4GFaNoho7+Swsz/E8+y2g/LfAhYCuuJExyaPVh Zg7MYvi80fsDWaQXaAby+J8oZOZoPkTPO3oy1uh9vvSY1UZJA21N1OCY7R86sxE0mq01 8GyvVAjp+PrlmduJRd+ddL6zhmfHv98QcoHTk= Received: by 10.90.98.13 with SMTP id v13mr6315282agb.86.1223328950041; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.82.9 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <95b2fb130810061435g1a22e9cbkcee4148cb98eaf64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:35:49 -0500 From: "H. Felton" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: User interfacing in Lojban.. In-Reply-To: <48EA46EF.9050604@finagle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E7AD62.4010307@finagle.org> <48E7C137.8000100@scarlet.be> <95b2fb130810060908m76a08c7bu3dcf3c16307496cf@mail.gmail.com> <48EA46EF.9050604@finagle.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 918 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fagricipni@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Steve Sloan wrote: > H. Felton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For 2), for instance, you can't just say "Sisku" on the button, as that >>>>> (as >>>>> I understand it) means "Look, a search/something searches!" which makes >>>>> no >>>>> sense in context. Would the button read "ko sisku" ("Hey you, >>>>> Search!")? >>>> >>>> I think {sisku} would be fine, as most UI labels are already ambiguous >>>> as >>>> to the actor. >> >> So, "sisku" _can_ mean "ko sisku"? > > In general (if I understand correctly), any part of Lojban speech can be > omitted when grammatically unambiguous. In this case, the context > (application command) makes it fairly clear who is to perform the search. If it were not a command; eg, "do sisku", "lo nixli cu sisku"; I'd not have been uncertain, the conversion to a command that "ko" does is something that I would not have thought could be elided.