From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 09 06:11:57 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KnvJ7-00029F-2h for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:11:57 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.251]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KnvJ0-00028u-QK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:11:57 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so7646rvf.46 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:11:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=67G5jyjOHbePnKvGz2kjyvjxY2BMfC2kuHOk0WnYkZQ=; b=SrToDi9MKqOFqZZ3ffMXEjg+qRF/ay5hfR4V02KFA2KvUPXZK6WMx+zk7G4FaAn/vW l0X7vPvA4xXFakpylelfU4RPL96ZwN5ins2Mh5CC0Vsy9jitkYvhvDPeJ7YTIBxtV22y yIN8hxQsnTjcVMvWfPqBsMK0lAmEpTEJm65ZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fFxrydgDB1WcqrTvPsofqYO1scEBsoqCc6BLlfYuBVNQU5nF6RG1s76LpuGBUok39C Vnkhi67qxizmNvObK6ijWUd1/hWCCChJMzCtQeAbP4XwYqDdJbST0UH/ac1Zh4qqya3P 6gD61+58aFLX5dmov3+o+xsZIBCD2tkw9XgxE= Received: by 10.141.179.5 with SMTP id g5mr65706rvp.30.1223557909891; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.211.15 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 06:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560810090611l69093c9dgd6e9f090c0a162d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:11:49 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Problems with using vowel ending sequences as cmavo? In-Reply-To: <95b2fb130810081721o6e719e2ci2b649f8a7dba45e4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <95b2fb130810081721o6e719e2ci2b649f8a7dba45e4@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 925 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:21 PM, H. Felton wrote: > I have been using "fagricipni" as a login in name for some time. ... > However, I'd like to know if there are reasonable ways of getting > around the issue with using a tanru as a name. I think that they can > be used after la by putting ku at the end of the name. However, I > know that the vocatives also take names; and I don't know if it is > even _possible_ to use a tanru as a name after a vocative, and if it > is then how complex is the mechanism for doing so. There's no problem with tanru as names, and the ku with LA is usually elidable, just as after LE. Similarly, the terminator for DOI/COI is do'u, also usually elidable. The only issue here is that "fagricipni", as written, is not a tanru, it's "fa gricipni", cmavo + lujvo. You need either "fagri cipni" or "fágricipni"/"fAgricipni" to get a tanru. mu'o mi'e xorxes