From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 24 05:48:22 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KtM5W-0000xu-FP for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:48:22 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.242]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KtM5S-0000x0-WD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:48:22 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so860153rvf.46 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:48:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pEgIP4MdvQ7vPIgQV9itwhx+DRA3lzQxiDgQYwvR4do=; b=Msd9sTwAUgy5h6xJcpbP+osvCIXXzpTRLS/LNfEIyji3N5yjPjLCZbjuOpGuhVBqZ6 2fvJ6penvadEf9JhF87mm81yq3W1p1oMzY7oJqWgW6/lupKMx90PlRiZmbEgEbV3rCDb WWUXn+cFQvi3Xg5jtpCZFcbnEBpUwG+pG2lUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=o6gqngCeShvXeAa++6yCVlxgJGgZmVjfojTkcebR43cAQKwuOYA/mkyBbJDdyNW3GQ P8bFfeYQao5FdjtipDnYq66pYI0NCh0EbUuCwLhOoRi83CGFNpx6Yv9xUJMXNKkrx1oX zFy9/XiCYLkte1F1T18ea6OLKj8uZJ+Nacc/s= Received: by 10.141.142.15 with SMTP id u15mr1145600rvn.171.1224852498045; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.211.15 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560810240548t73d931c3j37319e7904d8e640@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:48:18 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Translating sentence In-Reply-To: <1224835854.7351.3.camel@jamie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1224753763.7299.9.camel@jamie> <200810230741.04666.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560810230815o46b74ec7mf52ba18d3567453b@mail.gmail.com> <1224835854.7351.3.camel@jamie> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 939 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Jamie McCloskey wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 12:15 -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> pa lo ctuca be mi cu ju'irdu'e lo nu ne'i citka > > I notice that you use {lo ctuca} and {lo nu} instead of my "le"'s. Why > is this? You don't have any particular event(s) of eating indoors in mind, so {lo nu} really is better as {lo}. If the teacher was obsessed with one paricular eating indoors that took place last week, you could use {le}. The first one could be {le}, but {lo ctuca be mi} seems already specific enough by itself, so adding the specificity of {le} is a bit redundant. In general I try to avoid using any gadri other than the basic {lo}. mu'o mi'e xorxes