From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 27 07:36:40 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KuTCy-00041k-9A for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:40 -0700 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KuTCq-00040Z-2C for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:40 -0700 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z25so689027ele.1 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eib0omMNLtaNVzlX8ORo81bj5Sr5Vymueq7/rbFAkOU=; b=Uw5Ie25oTUwpS9+sfiiVqXKWr5ukHW3MI/lV9MQGq5SNEBbwj1YcDHFkPuWzwt6cNL 7LE+OsBO0Hear+5B3buLiyc8zcKXkOAZAmDFwC9rUTDI2yRwQA1fUxiu3sgnyDamRLBz OXrU+fPW9JPNafvTngsVSBVTEdYE3tHvswvEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MI/UZ1fpJtioV8osFnrmb5gHyhd1dU4WCF5qhCGc0OZ6aWUnzrvwpj5izAdsTXDJ0d jADdccW1GkzO05MCOeD9neAMy50O0l6hEoE7lIWKpZxriC8RYwC6Zgq/bmjBFupBBIlO itmea6uL73zvN5i5TWwQcqmiuV0foALZ+y8WI= Received: by 10.142.187.14 with SMTP id k14mr2724022wff.71.1225118189938; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.10 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <324fccf0810270736j334495bas6d7dc07796e7d190@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:36:29 -0500 From: "John Osborne" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: New jbovlaste-based dictionary In-Reply-To: <71550650810270715o23a932c6n765fb3224717702d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <71550650810241328td3388e5te35a316a5a32adfe@mail.gmail.com> <71550650810270439q52fa6697qc19fc8e093115c64@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300810270700l2342cf3m51bc7fe64b9a1abb@mail.gmail.com> <71550650810270715o23a932c6n765fb3224717702d@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 945 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: osborne6@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I'd be all over the ODT file version of this. Plus the process you used to convert the XML dump into the ODT file. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: > I guess I can do that, and post a text file in addition to the PDF. Maybe > also the ODT file. > Of course with a text file, I can't have hidden text, so you either have a > visible $xag$, which is ugly, or else omit that part, which omits the easy > searchability. What's wrong with PDF? > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >> It would be more useful for me if it were in a flat text file instead of a >> pdf. If something like that were possible that would be great. Also, about >> how large is this distribution list? >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: >>> >>> So I guess, not much interest... >>> Oh well, it's a fun project. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >>>> >>>> coi rodo >>>> For a while now, I've had some problems trying to get an English-lojban >>>> dictionary from jbovlaste. Even when I managed to get one, I found searching >>>> it to be a pain. >>>> So I downloaded the XML file, and re-formatted it to the format expected >>>> by OpenOffice. I then opened the file in OO, and exported it to a PDF. My >>>> version has a few advantages over the "official" jbovlaste-exported PDF: >>>> >>>> It's available online, so it can be just downloaded. It does not need to >>>> be "generated" >>>> It has both a Lojban to English section, and an English to Lojban >>>> section. >>>> Easy searching. At the first line of every definition there is a list of >>>> the word itself, and each of its rafsi, surrounded by dollar signs. For >>>> example, on the first line of xamgu, there's $xamgu$ $xag$ $xau$. But these >>>> items are in tiny white letters, so you can't see them. Your PDF reader >>>> (tried with Acrobat and Preview) can, so if you see a rafsi in use "ba'u" >>>> and want to know what it is, you search for $ba'u$ and learn that it's a >>>> rafsi of bacru, and also get the definition of bacru >>>> >>>> Please download this from the link below, and let me know if you feel >>>> this is useful. If so, I can make a new "edition" every month or every other >>>> month. >>>> http://tinyurl.com/5c3vus >>>> >>>> mu'o mi'e ioav >>> >> > > -- John Osborne osborne6@ieee.org/osborne6@gmail.com/jro@freeshell.org