From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 31 05:23:06 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kvt1t-0003YU-RY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:23:05 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kvt1q-0003Y4-Pc for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:23:05 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1223391wfa.25 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:23:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UAT6NC/3hnD/9w3AiKUS0VSh/3jvFauWFXunZnIyG4w=; b=CpoMdQ+RFLOan67F9lUOPN2bBmI4liBpmw1gKyfhOjVEvLwb3W47iLQo1f2kZ9b+Qg R4l+62x54MYkNMpYipQ1n/26lING2M0R0oGRsLNxnsPSW17B28JMzzyTUwinDxeaAlQq Ig/ximeBQ4gOEstyIigbemqb0djEyevaJM/x0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YtS3J7w1BqeNhqcycf4SRMpU4HI3v3dU8eBzt8UMkvbr0m7wixWfQiahg9EyU/rGq8 rhCWNxwU9HZaNpYAla9mh+g1T839Y29v4meCynkdVGtszfcsfgQ+ofOrrNLKZkH6hSVc qOYhN4kOuBjqHAuN3PEIn/T9aFO1q9xvxbTVs= Received: by 10.142.222.21 with SMTP id u21mr5329523wfg.323.1225455781760; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.210.8 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5627810d0810310523u490fc06y2f1b28c643f956e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:23:01 -0400 From: "Donald McLean" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "I gotta go feed my baby turtles" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4de8c3930810290937q7d6436daw557a7dc8ce386e8a@mail.gmail.com> <5627810d0810290946i6fb96dc0uc5b0e15524519d70@mail.gmail.com> <6E2DF1575F3F2043AC2E1E8E56C5853D0CCAD083@emss02m20.us.lmco.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 977 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dmclean62@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners That's true - the ancient riddle of the Sphinx is a concept riddle and would have more or less the same meaning regardless of language - as evidenced by the fact that it is still around even though the language that it was originally written in is long gone. This is in contrast to the classic English riddle "What's black and white and read all over?" which depends on the fact that "red" and "read" have the same pronunciation. Donald On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: > > Not all riddles are language-dependent for their puzzle. Probably many > of them can be translated into any language. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Rostowfske, Luke J > wrote: >> >> I guess more than jokes, what about riddles? >> >> Are there any good lojban riddles? I know they are not as popular as >> they once were. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org >> [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Donald McLean >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:47 AM >> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org >> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "I gotta go feed my baby turtles" >> >> Humor is generally culture specific. I know that at my house, things >> that have us rolling on the floor would mean nothing to most people. >> >> So, if you want to tell an English joke, use English (note that >> Americans might or might not find it funny and vice-versa). >> >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, tijlan wrote: >>> from >>> http://publius-ovidius.livejournal.com/288241.html >>> >>> "There is an artificial language called Lojban which is based on >>> predicate logic. It was created to form a language in which it is >>> impossible to form an ambiguous sentence. That's a bit of a shame as >>> it would eliminate so much humor." >>> >>> Do we have any workaround to retain as much humor in Lojban as in >>> English in terms of ambiguity? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Family photographs are a critical legacy for ourselves and our descendants. Protect that legacy with a digital backup and recovery plan.