From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 11 22:45:26 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L09Ti-00065Z-2D for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:26 -0800 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L09Td-000658-Ck for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:25 -0800 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so266960mue.6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qR78LyJgPHYKUnnTl6CZ0pBzsBU/0N1LPUPCLKzeSkw=; b=Bf9i6pjp0c3JRbvX2OEtCDtfuGRVl2AlulvosVWSgzZaqFuZT+AYRPcfgl1RLuG/8A AHT/AnmUbWZXbt9L9XspCGGwIXnjKIfhXO7xFy9XBzy8DqWP34BCgExAm0xDO/ywJGDX xNIp//E/SrpeGqXGbK9JnFTvI2HpZ1/6nyZhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=CK+2RT66XtTqVTKu3yNtje2h45vzrtYZaS22JZ6RYt0n69Ep2jRtKm+Y4qE2kurGmP qeBIbAG/HgSaoSxMJGWIz9DTlVfXz0Hke/rtHKHtMi2Im9MCVwmWselRtPWIclstHXJ4 7OnSUv/RNgLWISF4NZPXS/gdO1PQ3fSmyypCc= Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr5104728mur.87.1226472319965; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.169.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c91612c0811112245l4e52c6b5vb4fe223ec22fafea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:15:19 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Ravi Narayan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la/le In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1741_24894657.1226472319968" References: <71550650811111530v3febc4a1t30b7f69427cdbde1@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811111631s588c211ds6a248e0a6b63cd69@mail.gmail.com> <200811112253.01102.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1011 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lakshmiravinarayan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_1741_24894657.1226472319968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline la and le are merely distinguishing words. they indicate whether the word coming up next is a specific or general selbri, like common and proper noun. its significance becomes evident when it is seen from the computer parsing perspective. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 AM, M CHILDS wrote: > I'm still having trouble understanding la and le... so for instance > > ninmu is a selbri > and le would be a sumti > > le ninmu > > and the structure of ninmu is > x1 is a woman > > so for the distinction between THE and A? > and why is someone's name x1 = la? > > and why are le and la necessary if they are place holders for the object, > when the selbri describes that object? > > ------------------------------ > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious > email. Sign up today. > -- lykcmis ryvis na.ra'ian ------=_Part_1741_24894657.1226472319968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline la and le are merely distinguishing words. they indicate whether the word coming up next is a specific or general selbri, like common and proper noun. its significance becomes evident when it is seen from the computer parsing perspective.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 AM, M CHILDS <m_chi919@msn.com> wrote:
I'm still having trouble understanding la and le... so for instance

ninmu is a selbri
and le would be a sumti

le ninmu

and the structure of ninmu is
 x1 is a woman

so for the distinction between THE and A?
and why is someone's name x1 = la?

and why are le and la necessary if they are place holders for the object, when the selbri describes that object?

Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. Sign up today.



--
lykcmis ryvis na.ra'ian
------=_Part_1741_24894657.1226472319968--