From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 13 08:16:01 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L0erR-0005Vs-ES for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:16:01 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L0erN-0005VJ-9A for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:16:01 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 30so484455nfu.46 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:15:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UGcba7uPKC4UPUwjTcCPFFlBeafJfVkKrBYnI0SB09Y=; b=T6lwa+WhOpRj1PEUR0Hj0+Ahq7vhxjk8/6BlCXG4a+uMM655L7mnK0/2SmT4eSuRKd FX88m5Mr1G2jyJnObZMNlbL1+LpBiwgVV/5QR8B25w+/7Wfq7vOtu6YJiZLWwfzbMpdq fW08slIeAsUHhvMXuCYrF1i6wskw+FWvDo+70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=p7XU5elAJX9cHkr3zXP59b8xBK367GIF2NuWTD4eb0P4f3Vy/RiGaNAFHMpjGJxj/y KIvXbJz3odworZOnikBP7JJq+AQofAxoJdtRPGDw0pxtxnPyco8oK+flOmb9kmvYh9KN p1gsyaQI5KpgrvOa2KBUOWh0s/EmK8D2uIa4o= Received: by 10.210.51.18 with SMTP id y18mr11580727eby.103.1226592954996; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.142.8 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5715b9300811130815w280f634ctae99c496e9ca16e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:15:54 -0500 From: "Luke Bergen" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: more le lo In-Reply-To: <702226df0811130806h51c83c15k17acd2c5d2b6c45c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22291_23012886.1226592955008" References: <5715b9300811130732n669e3f6esce4de0b81d442f65@mail.gmail.com> <200811131055.32015.phma@phma.optus.nu> <702226df0811130806h51c83c15k17acd2c5d2b6c45c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1027 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_22291_23012886.1226592955008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline or how about "le nanmu noi ri cu tcidu"? Or does "ri" refer to the last sumti from the previous selbri? Or does "ri" refer to "le nanmu"? In which case we're just being redundent. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jon Top Hat Jones wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Thursday 13 November 2008 10:32:55 Luke Bergen wrote: >> > coi. >> > >> > So, how would I express "the man(which is an actual man) reads". As in, >> > what if I want the specificity of "le" but I want the "I have an actual >> man >> > in mind" part of "lo"? Is this possible in lojban without saying >> something >> > like "le nanmu du lo nanmu cu tcidu" >> >> le nanmu noi nanmu cu tcidu >> >> mu'omi'e .pier. >> >> >> >> As a side note, would the following also work? > > le nanmu noi ny. cu tcidu > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .topy'at. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > ------=_Part_22291_23012886.1226592955008 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline or how about "le nanmu noi ri cu tcidu"?  Or does "ri" refer to the last sumti from the previous selbri?  Or does "ri" refer to "le nanmu"?  In which case we're just being redundent.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jon Top Hat Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Thursday 13 November 2008 10:32:55 Luke Bergen wrote:
> coi.
>
> So, how would I express "the man(which is an actual man) reads".  As in,
> what if I want the specificity of "le" but I want the "I have an actual man
> in mind" part of "lo"?  Is this possible in lojban without saying something
> like "le nanmu du lo nanmu cu tcidu"

le nanmu noi nanmu cu tcidu

mu'omi'e .pier.



As a side note, would the following also work?

le nanmu noi ny. cu tcidu


--
mu'o mi'e .topy'at.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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