From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 13 15:20:39 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L0lUM-0005Ld-Fp for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:38 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L0lUJ-0005LJ-TA for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:38 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1110477rvf.46 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wpYEhjvwWvgmxRNlf+xaaiXGXJ0NdF7xIiQlzxy4p2Y=; b=qlWIQmRNccWpWviVKn8CQZe1iz4waAZ37urrMyIdbcswvPNuE1yMIScVQLlrrDH04H uPSh2g4xEumTC1yd8uzAWvvmIDyQqulFBNahCZL8OhWlFJtnuLzCX5oSOpX+FtUgt3RA rZU+Eit26WXV55Vf6A1HUodmBRfBKKkPlLjjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=UAHYr+9pA237b6UQrXBNAomC9ndXYvfrD2PNEKdJobUOqNoZDfx/QlDBnL+X2cUNyg Z988tkvsu+D8R9wO4l+F+UxGeQ8aDeFIRRZ8mQ+IDA/hn+gDeRNLukZL1ydoKR13YlwQ XwvcAGNhbo5cH8o2s42MatQZSrPNNlBNssk1A= Received: by 10.140.171.18 with SMTP id t18mr143331rve.10.1226618434842; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811131520j51935e79u4a6a6e0bdd5e1231@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:20:34 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: more le lo In-Reply-To: <12d58c160811131501v65cd0f48nc4f9808b64fecf78@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5715b9300811130732n669e3f6esce4de0b81d442f65@mail.gmail.com> <200811131055.32015.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12d58c160811131501v65cd0f48nc4f9808b64fecf78@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1040 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:01 PM, komfo,amonan wrote: > > Does {le je'u nanmu cu tcidu} work for this too? I think you want {le nanmu je'u} if you are concerned with the veracity of {nanmu}. When attitudinals attach to a structure word, the sense is that they apply to the whole structure connected with that word, so {le je'u nanmu} is equivalent to {le nanmu ku je'u}, and that would mean something like "it is truly THE MAN that reads", i.e an answer to {le nanmu ku xu cu tcidu}, "Is it THE MAN that reads?". mu'o mi'e xorxes