From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Dec 14 04:59:16 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LBqZ1-0001NO-Hv for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:59:16 -0800 Received: from web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.105]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LBqYy-0001M8-4n for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:59:15 -0800 Received: (qmail 5489 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2008 12:59:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Mffj5oXtSUnaCqLrOFRFTPxgiE8zV32Lxd1Lboh6Q5u6PH4YaMz79Fnu6yIs89zsnB9B86rLaQACSSN6qwkOCuRojuLI6A0NBAjO3JiWwNrT4uaSpp9O4GATiLqeWzuBiy8U33boknmJohUirXN0zRL9A0KSbsvFa0CPHLqy+9c=; X-YMail-OSG: IdnliRcVM1kr7kz4O5EIX9YLIssQSRtxSvwcphCSm9poIj3vUJrBmGqGOkrrlwadW7nwLbT6OlZqfega37lAoN2dZyzar04Nt7By0D1w2nG_zi44UbyH6k9OiuM7xl.UVIBttTDH6YmCBbf19UD3rHccAxTBUAS1.GkWqn4DKIPnCFCgNv10n0EXzISoe3THx3c7vayCKaq3jARqgrVvCR4LyUTTgLS2AGpou7XyEWfF Received: from [84.195.62.211] by web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:59:05 PST Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:59:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gysel Subject: [lojban-beginners] fu'ivla To: lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-767307728-1229259545=:4504" Message-ID: <15315.4504.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 1092 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: to_mu1975@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-767307728-1229259545=:4504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo, Fu'ivla type 3's are a whole mouthful to pronounce. I have to look many tim= es before i grasp what I see. Is it gramattically ok in writing to insert an 'y'=A0 : eg. cidjyrkari for cidjrkari. We pronounce it as cidjyrkari anyway, and it = improves readability. And what about a comma, can we write: eg;=A0 cidjr,kari (for cidjrkari) eg:=A0 cirlr,bri (instead of the eyebending cirlrbri),=20 or even cirlyr,bri ?? Solutions like this would improve readability for me, I could even pronounc= e the word the FIRST time I read it (and not after straining my eyes five t= imes) :) But is it grammatically correct?=20 For all I have been able to find: yes. Thank you, Tom. Tom Gysel Goudensterstraat 85 9000 Gent 0474 26 07 04 www.TomTao.be=0A=0A=0A --0-767307728-1229259545=:4504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hallo,
Fu'ivla type 3's are a whole mouthful to pronounce. I have to look many times before i grasp what I see.

Is it gramattically ok in writing to insert an 'y'  :
eg. cidjyrkari for cidjrkari. We pronounce it as cidjyrkari anyway, and it improves readability.

And what about a comma, can we write:
eg;  cidjr,kari (for cidjrkari)
eg:  cirlr,bri (instead of the eyebending cirlrbri),
or even cirlyr,bri ??

Solutions like this would improve readability for me, I could even pronounce the word the FIRST time I read it (and not after straining my eyes five times) :)
But is it grammatically correct?
For all I have been able to find: yes.

Thank you,
Tom.

Tom Gysel
Goudensterstraat 85
9000 Gent
0474 26 07 04
www.TomTao.be

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